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| eldafar | hi | 19:37 |
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| Spec | heya | 19:39 |
| Spec | heya jinty, i hear you used to package CanDo? | 19:40 |
| jinty | Spec: hey, indeed. Though there has been nothing to package while we wait for schooltool 2006 | 19:41 |
| Spec | I'm taking over packaging apparantly, :p | 19:42 |
| Spec | at least, for CanDo | 19:42 |
| Spec | but they want it to be packaged with SchoolTool and zope3, all together in one .deb, which is very undebiany | 19:42 |
| jinty | yeah, that's a really bad idea | 19:43 |
| jinty | I did that in the beginning for schooltool and have been regretting it ever since | 19:43 |
| Spec | it doesn't seem toooo bad | 19:43 |
| jinty | wait;) | 19:43 |
| Spec | When I get the making-a-good-package thing down, I'll write a script to do it all automagically :) | 19:44 |
| jinty | haha!!!! | 19:44 |
| * jinty sincerely wishes Spec luck | 19:44 | |
| Spec | :), i have to learn by making mistakes some how | 19:44 |
| jinty | but really, are you interested in packaging cando 2006? or the older version? | 19:45 |
| Spec | the package i found on schooltool's ftp server for CanDo puts everything into /lib/cando ... but cando isn't really a library, is this debian policy? | 19:45 |
| Spec | I'm packaging the trunk of CanDo I think....umm, eldafar, what's that's guys name who was there sunday? | 19:45 |
| jinty | er it's interesting | 19:45 |
| eldafar | stefan? | 19:46 |
| Spec | yeah | 19:46 |
| jinty | because python libraries, even if they are pure python, are put under /usr/lib | 19:46 |
| Spec | He set it up to use zpkgtools and wrote a script to grab schooltool and zope3, compile zope3, and throw it all into DESTDIR, i translated the script to a Makefile so far | 19:46 |
| Spec | so then I can just use dpkg-buildpackage in the src dir, and it'll grab everything it needs, and throw it into DESTDIR(/usr/lib/cando) | 19:46 |
| Spec | okay, so what's /usr/bin/cando? is that a symlink to schooltool-server.py or whatever it is? | 19:47 |
| jinty | i can't remember really | 19:48 |
| Spec | hmm, well, my computer at home is down, so i can't work on it until it magically turns on ... so thanks for the help, i'll bug you later probably :o) | 19:48 |
| jinty | I think it's just a script that does some python path setting stuff | 19:48 |
| jinty | sure | 19:48 |
| jinty | Spec: I have designed the schooltool 2006 packages to have cando as a plugin. | 19:49 |
| jinty | so we sould co-ordinate, at least at the package name level, so that we don't step on each other's toes | 19:50 |
| Spec | umm | 19:54 |
| jinty | anyway, if you want to take over the cando name, that's fine by me | 19:54 |
| * jinty reserves schooltool-cando | 19:54 | |
| Spec | the decision that people_other_than_me made was to package schooltool/zope3 and cando altogether | 19:55 |
| Spec | if it was up to me, schooltool-cando would sit in /usr/lib/schooltool/cando(or wherever plugins are appropriate), and have schooltool as a dependency (which in turn should have zope3 as a dependency) | 19:55 |
| jinty | yeah, those are your external requirements, and that's fine | 19:55 |
| Spec | but instead, i get to make the package `cando` | 19:55 |
| Spec | so, are you going to package cando as a plugin to schooltool as well? | 19:56 |
| jinty | perhaps, if I get the time | 19:56 |
| Spec | we'll be using different apt repositories...so it's not -too- bad | 19:56 |
| jinty | on the other hand, I don't mind if you want to do it as well | 19:56 |
| Spec | but if they ever get in main, it'll be: schooltool, schooltool-cando, and cando | 19:57 |
| jinty | but lets just say that schooltool plugins get a prefix schooltool- | 19:57 |
| jinty | but your cando server will be standalone, so cando is fine | 19:57 |
| * jinty thinks so at least | 19:57 | |
| Spec | yeap | 19:57 |
| Spec | except it'll confuse the users | 19:57 |
| Spec | it won't confuse the elite. | 19:58 |
| jinty | anyway, the bad part about having schooltool as a dependency is that you will have to wait for schooltool 2006 before you can distribute | 19:58 |
| Spec | for schooltool-cando | 19:58 |
| jinty | which, perhaps, is why they want you to take the other route | 19:59 |
| Spec | i think so | 19:59 |
| Spec | what tools did you use to build cando, anyways? dh-make+dpkg-buildpackage+pbuilder ? | 19:59 |
| jinty | yeah, pbuilder is great | 19:59 |
| jinty | I use it for everything | 20:00 |
| Spec | everything? how do you use it to feed cats? | 20:00 |
| * jinty has interesting cats | 20:00 | |
| Spec | heh | 20:00 |
| jinty | anyway, back to the python modules in lib. you gotta put zope in lib because it's got extension modules | 20:01 |
| Spec | : /usr/lib/cando/zope3 ? | 20:01 |
| Spec | I don't know much about zope3 ... in fact, I know very little about it, I've never used it before. | 20:02 |
| jinty | yeah, I'd install everything under /usr/lib/cando | 20:02 |
| jinty | that way you get to have your own copy and don't interfere with the schooltool/zope packages | 20:03 |
| Spec | both should be able to be installed at the same time, yes? | 20:03 |
| Spec | and don't they both bind to the same ports? | 20:03 |
| jinty | yes, if cando is standalone, i don't see a reason why cando and schooltool should conflict in any way | 20:04 |
| jinty | the old packages have installation scripts that set up a the server and such | 20:05 |
| jinty | I suggest you look at those | 20:05 |
| Spec | installation scripts? you mean the Makefile or are you referring to pre/postinst? | 20:05 |
| jinty | pre/postinst | 20:05 |
| jinty | logrotate | 20:05 |
| jinty | configuration file | 20:06 |
| Spec | alright, i was planning on looking at the entire debian/* directory, i haven't set mine up yet | 20:06 |
| jinty | you should also be aware that some people who used to have the old cando installed are going to install your package | 20:07 |
| jinty | or maybe not, but you might want to try some upgrade testing | 20:07 |
| jinty | anyway, i've gotta get back to work, my vacation starts tomorrw... | 20:09 |
| jinty | but feel free to ask questions | 20:09 |
| eldafar | how do you make the little developer tools menu at the top right show up in schooltool? | 20:10 |
| jinty | put "devmode on" into the config file | 20:11 |
| jinty | ? | 20:11 |
| eldafar | oh yes, thank you | 20:11 |
| Spec | eldafar: work harder1 | 20:18 |
| eldafar | yes sir! | 20:20 |
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