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| pcardune | jinty: ayt? | 03:16 |
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| jinty | pcardune: yep | 03:19 |
| jinty | ?? | 03:19 |
| pcardune | I'm trying to hook up our svn repo to launchpad... | 03:19 |
| jinty | eeer | 03:19 |
| jinty | eekk | 03:19 |
| pcardune | no? bad idea? | 03:19 |
| jinty | I dunno, I tried it once or twice | 03:20 |
| pcardune | well, i can't figure out what to put in for the source package | 03:20 |
| jinty | where is this | 03:20 |
| jinty | ? | 03:20 |
| pcardune | upstreem source import | 03:20 |
| pcardune | well, how did you get the revisions to show up? | 03:21 |
| jinty | pcardune; could you point me to a page in launchpad you are talking about? | 03:22 |
| pcardune | yeah, i'm trying to get the corresponding schooltool page | 03:22 |
| pcardune | https://launchpad.net/products/schooltool/main/+source | 03:23 |
| pcardune | I can't actually access that page as I don't have permissions | 03:23 |
| jinty | hmm | 03:23 |
| jinty | it makes zero sense | 03:24 |
| jinty | to me | 03:24 |
| jinty | because I have no idea what is this HEAD MAIN or TRUNK they are talking about | 03:25 |
| pcardune | yeah, that's what I thought | 03:25 |
| jinty | but the SVN section is filled in | 03:25 |
| pcardune | ok, well then I don't feel so bad if you dont get it either | 03:25 |
| pcardune | do you know how long it is supposed to take for your svn repo to be imported? | 03:25 |
| jinty | dunno, I had setup the SVN stuff ages ago | 03:26 |
| pcardune | oh well, i guess I will just wait then | 03:26 |
| * jinty puts schooltool in the source package name | 03:27 | |
| jinty | error!!! "This Source has been certified and is now unmodifiable." | 03:27 |
| jinty | but I like their error icon | 03:28 |
| jinty | nice design | 03:28 |
| pcardune | he he he | 03:28 |
| * jinty hopes "certified" is not in the nuthouse sense of the word | 03:29 | |
| pcardune | wow, this whole gpg thing is pretty cool | 03:30 |
| * pcardune types in irc to increase entropy for my gpg key | 03:31 | |
| jinty | yeah;) | 03:31 |
| * jinty notes all his debian packages are gpg signed | 03:31 | |
| pcardune | oh, you wouldn't happen to know where all the schooltool specs are going to go? the ones that used to be in the roadmap that no longer exists | 03:32 |
| jinty | I thought they were in launchpad | 03:32 |
| jinty | but I guess there are a lot of things in the issue tracker as well | 03:33 |
| pcardune | well, you can only put like a paragraph in launchpad. everything else has to be linked to from there | 03:33 |
| pcardune | linked to a wiki for example | 03:33 |
| pcardune | jinty: i'm lost. How are you supposed to get the key_id for a key you just created? | 03:40 |
| jinty | pcardune: you mean the fingerprint? | 03:41 |
| pcardune | no, the key ID as in "gpg --send-key key_id" | 03:42 |
| jinty | gpg --list-keys jinty | 03:42 |
| jinty | does it for me | 03:42 |
| pcardune | but which part is the key? | 03:43 |
| jinty | the key id is the last 8 digits of the fingerprint IIRC | 03:43 |
| pcardune | or rather, the key_id? | 03:43 |
| pcardune | ooooooooh | 03:43 |
| pcardune | that wasn't very clear, thanks for telling me | 03:43 |
| th1a | jinty: I spoke to srichter today... we should just go ahead and start packaging the alpha2 release. | 03:44 |
| jinty | want me to do it now? | 03:45 |
| th1a | You could. | 03:45 |
| th1a | I want to take some things out of it if we can, like the commendations package. | 03:45 |
| th1a | When would we do that? | 03:46 |
| jinty | let's do that sooner rather than later | 03:46 |
| th1a | Well, I would want it to stay in the trunk... | 03:46 |
| th1a | Is there any way to automate that kind of thing? | 03:46 |
| jinty | yes, zpkg that is one thing zpkg actually solves elegantly | 03:47 |
| jinty | ;) | 03:47 |
| th1a | Good. | 03:47 |
| jinty | perhaps it is not included in the tarball even now | 03:47 |
| th1a | Hm. Wonder if we can rip notes out easily, too. | 03:48 |
| th1a | Those are two things I'd like in the trunk but not in releases for now. | 03:49 |
| jinty | schooltool.app | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.attendance | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.batching | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.calendar | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.commendation | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.course | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.demographics | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.devmode | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.generations | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.gradebook | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.group | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.help | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.level | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.note | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.person | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.relationship | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.requirement | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.resource | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.sampledata | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.securitypolicy | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.setupdata | 03:50 |
| jinty | schooltool.setup | 03:51 |
| jinty | schooltool.skin | 03:51 |
| jinty | schooltool.term | 03:51 |
| jinty | schooltool.testing | 03:51 |
| jinty | schooltool.timetable | 03:51 |
| jinty | schooltool.traverser | 03:51 |
| jinty | schooltool.utility | 03:51 |
| jinty | schooltool.widget | 03:51 |
| jinty | that's what we got right now | 03:51 |
| * jinty aplogises for not having pastebinned that | 03:51 | |
| th1a | Whew. | 03:51 |
| th1a | Well, in theory we can take notes and commendation easily. | 03:52 |
| * jinty is still busy trying to figure out which packages depend on commendation | 03:55 | |
| th1a | I would hope none. | 03:55 |
| jinty | ok schooltool.app depends on schooltool.commendation | 03:58 |
| jinty | and SchoolTool itself depends on schooltool.note | 03:58 |
| jinty | niether is very reveiling | 03:59 |
| jinty | so I suggest remove them fro now and see what happens with the nighly tarball | 03:59 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 6305: | 04:03 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Remove schooltool.note and schooltool.commendation to see if the nightly tarball works. th1a expressed reservations releasing with these. | 04:03 |
| jinty | th1a: schooltool/app/configure.zcml hardcodes schooltool.note | 04:10 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 6306: | 04:13 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Revert part of my previous patch. | 04:13 |
| jinty | th1a: ok, we should be able to release without schooltool.commendation | 04:30 |
| th1a | OK. Cool. | 04:31 |
| th1a | So we'd need to rearrange some ZCML at some point in the future to take notes out? | 04:32 |
| jinty | that was only the first problem I found, not all of them | 04:34 |
| th1a | OK. It is old code, so it might have tentacles. | 04:35 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 6307: | 04:36 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Tagging 2006.0-alpha2 | 04:36 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 6308: | 04:42 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Set version number as 2006.0-alpha2 | 04:42 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 6309: | 04:44 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Quickly update tagger to the new version number text file. | 04:44 |
| jinty | th1a: tarballs are up, the release is out | 05:11 |
| th1a | Up where? | 05:11 |
| jinty | on ftp.schooltool.org | 05:11 |
| jinty | ftp://ftp.schooltool.org/pub/schooltool/releases/2006.0-alpha2/ | 05:11 |
| th1a | OK. Downloading... | 05:12 |
| th1a | jinty: So for the tarball I have to manually (i.e., apt-get) Zope 3 first. | 05:14 |
| jinty | no | 05:14 |
| jinty | the normal tarball includes Zope3 | 05:14 |
| jinty | you will have to install the eggs manually though | 05:15 |
| th1a | I totally don't understand the directions for building from a source tarball. | 05:16 |
| th1a | I don't know where I would want my libraries to go. | 05:16 |
| jinty | :) I recall we wrote the instructions together the last time;) | 05:17 |
| th1a | I have a very bad tendency to dance around the bits I don't understand. | 05:18 |
| jinty | Normally just put the libraries in anywhere (as long as you don't move it later) | 05:18 |
| th1a | So... any chance of getting some .debs of this? | 05:18 |
| jinty | I just built and uploaded a deb of the zope 3.3 beta | 05:19 |
| jinty | so we are one step closer | 05:19 |
| th1a | Oh... I see... | 05:19 |
| th1a | Can we set up a test repository with just the packages we need? | 05:19 |
| jinty | yeah, I'm building that up as I go along | 05:21 |
| jinty | th1a: it's over here: deb ftp://ftp.schooltool.org/pub/schooltool/archives/debian unstable main | 05:22 |
| jinty | or at least that's my plan | 05:23 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 6310: | 05:23 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: change alpha to gamma and delta to omega as they are less common in the names of software releases. | 05:23 |
| th1a | I seem to need a password to get at that archive. | 05:24 |
| jinty | wow!! | 05:25 |
| th1a | wow? | 05:25 |
| jinty | I mean how did you manage to download the tarball, but cannot access that archive | 05:25 |
| th1a | I could get to releases. | 05:26 |
| jinty | exactly... | 05:26 |
| th1a | Hm... I can get to it now. | 05:27 |
| th1a | Anyhow... so if you make a schooltool package and put it there, would it be enough to test the whole thing? | 05:30 |
| jinty | yes, I could upload my prototype I am trying to build | 05:31 |
| th1a | OK. Saying "Yay, you can download a tarball that's more cryptic than the svn checkout" isn't that exciting. | 05:32 |
| jinty | Ok, i see, but unless they are running debian unstable of the last week or so, the package will be uninstallable anyway | 05:33 |
| jinty | A _lot_ of stuff has changed in the last week | 05:33 |
| th1a | Oh, cripes. | 05:34 |
| jinty | And I don't really have the time to re-write schooltool + all the new dependencies in the old way... | 05:35 |
| th1a | I understand. | 05:35 |
| th1a | So basically, we won't have new SchoolTool .debs for Dapper. Just for Edgy. | 05:39 |
| jinty | Exactly | 05:40 |
| th1a | There isn't a reason I can't write a script to install the tarball, right? | 05:40 |
| th1a | Aside from incompetence. | 05:41 |
| jinty | Er, you mean install the eggs automatically and such? | 05:43 |
| jinty | Probably, but I would then try not to install the eggs as root... | 05:44 |
| jinty | Anyway, goodnight!!!! | 05:45 |
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| ignas | faassen: ping | 14:36 |
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| ignas | faassen: some issues with demographics | 14:51 |
| ignas | though i guess email will be better | 14:52 |
| faassen | ignas: hm, okay. | 14:52 |
| ignas | sent it | 14:55 |
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| ignas | faassen: how bad is the situation of Zope3 full text indexing ? | 15:26 |
| ignas | the tracebacks and the "a" query can be fixed pretty easily, bu the fact that it can't find all the matching items ... | 15:27 |
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| faassen | ignas: It doesn't seem to have that for larger strings. | 15:37 |
| ignas | you mean searching for *foo* would work better than *a* ? | 15:37 |
| faassen | ignas: but yeah, it's scary. :) | 15:37 |
| faassen | ignas: yeah. | 15:37 |
| faassen | ignas: I don't know how bad the situation is. | 15:37 |
| ignas | i see | 15:38 |
| ignas | i think i'll have a look at the query parser | 15:38 |
| ignas | though i am kind of busy with evolution scripts now :/ | 15:38 |
| faassen | ignas: okay. | 15:38 |
| faassen | ignas: well, I can try looking into it later. | 15:38 |
| faassen | ignas: I mean, I'm kind of struggling with huge Data.fs files this week. | 15:38 |
| faassen | ignas: but I can try digging into what might be going on with Zope 3 full text index. | 15:39 |
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| erchache | th1a: why dont redirect demo.schooltool.org to my server? | 16:23 |
| erchache | im ready to do it | 16:24 |
| erchache | only needs to redirect your apache to my ip:port config | 16:25 |
| th1a | erchache: I don't want to actually redirect the dns, but I could change the link on http://schooltool.org. | 17:12 |
| th1a | I'll have the regular demo.schooltool.org up in a few days anyhow. | 17:13 |
| th1a | Also, we're releasing alpha2 today... | 17:13 |
| erchache | ahh ok | 17:13 |
| th1a | Can you update to that? | 17:13 |
| erchache | to alpha2 | 17:13 |
| th1a | It would be good to be able to point to your server for that. | 17:13 |
| erchache | yeah i have a fresh installation without data | 17:14 |
| erchache | are avalaible alpha2 to download? | 17:14 |
| th1a | Yes... | 17:14 |
| th1a | ftp://ftp.schooltool.org/pub/schooltool/releases/2006.0-alpha2 | 17:15 |
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| th1a | I have a general question for the audience... can I install eggs not as root in a local directory? | 17:17 |
| erchache | th1a: a second im making a repair of a mysql databse | 17:18 |
| erchache | i install alpha2 on this afternoon | 17:18 |
| erchache | th1a: uhmm...new install instructions? | 17:35 |
| erchache | to convert python compiling into c style? .7configure && make && make install? | 17:35 |
| th1a | I'm working on a script to automate that. | 17:36 |
| th1a | Otherwise, for the time being a "release" is harder than a svn checkout. | 17:36 |
| th1a | Which is rather pointless. | 17:36 |
| erchache | uhmmm | 17:36 |
| erchache | ok | 17:37 |
| th1a | That's my job for today. | 17:37 |
| erchache | ./bin/xxxxxx are very strange i dont understand this steps easy | 17:37 |
| erchache | will be a problem for noob users | 17:37 |
| erchache | $ ./bin/schooltooltest -ufv1 | 17:38 |
| erchache | this is after modify python path no? | 17:38 |
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| th1a | erchache: I don't really understand the steps either. I need to figure it out. | 17:54 |
| th1a | I just need to script the whole thing. | 17:56 |
| erchache | well | 17:59 |
| th1a | Yes I know this is not optimal. | 18:00 |
| th1a | Perhaps we should have written simpler software. | 18:00 |
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| pcardune | th1a: I just imported 42000 lines of data from virginia CTE resources | 18:06 |
| * pcardune wipes sweat off his forehead | 18:06 | |
| th1a | Just wait 'til we get SIF going. Then we'll really haul some data around. | 18:08 |
| pcardune | http://maddog.yhspatriot.net:7080/++competencies++/@@treeindex.html <--- if you would like to take a look. It takes a few seconds to render. | 18:12 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 6311: | 18:13 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Fix some copy paste. | 18:13 |
| th1a | pcardune: Is jelkner around? | 18:13 |
| pcardune | th1a: unfortunately not | 18:13 |
| pcardune | and he won't really be back here until wednesday | 18:14 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:14 |
| th1a | How are things going over there? | 18:14 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 6312: | 18:14 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Fix a bug in an evolution script. | 18:14 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: p.s. NEVER delete something from the container you are iterating through. | 18:14 |
| th1a | pcardune: Do Journals do anything? | 18:15 |
| pcardune | th1a: yeah | 18:16 |
| pcardune | although I dont think this server is the latest svn trunk | 18:16 |
| pcardune | so I'm not sure what functionality is there | 18:16 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:17 |
| pcardune | journals are kind of like mini blogs | 18:17 |
| th1a | I see. | 18:19 |
| th1a | We need to sort out the UI on this thing... | 18:19 |
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| ignas | th1a: do we need migration from schooltool-2006.0-alpha1 to schooltool-2006.0-alpha2 ? | 18:35 |
| th1a | Realistically, no. | 18:41 |
| th1a | ignas: From SchoolTool Calendar is what we'd like. | 18:41 |
| ignas | ok | 18:42 |
| th1a | Although that doesn't even need to be complete, in my opinion. | 18:42 |
| th1a | For example, the terms are (soon...) going to be very different, and it would be tough to migrate them. | 18:42 |
| th1a | And I don't think recreating them is realistically a problem. | 18:43 |
| th1a | Compared to, say, losing user accounts or calendar events. | 18:43 |
| ignas | i see | 18:46 |
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| ignas | th1a: evolution should be more or less working now | 18:57 |
| ignas | we can surely migrate from 0.11.4 | 18:57 |
| th1a | As long as it is close enough that we get individual bugs that can be fixed (as opposed to cascades of failures). | 19:11 |
| ignas | Graham has posted a troubling bug report to schooltool mailing list, without enough details though :/ | 19:17 |
| th1a | ignas: It strikes me as more of an Outlook problem. | 19:31 |
| th1a | Or, specifically an outlook interoperability problem. | 19:31 |
| ignas | probably, yes, though the wording was way too unclear to be sure ... | 19:31 |
| th1a | I think he just erased the events from his Outlook, not SchoolTool. | 19:41 |
| ignas | now, what about work for upcoming month ? | 19:44 |
| ignas | the estimate is that considering europython/vacations we will have some (not very much) time for schooltool in july | 19:45 |
| ignas | at least 12 developer days, probably more if the last week of June is included | 19:46 |
| th1a | ignas: Well, we're going to need you to do some section refactoring. | 19:53 |
| ignas | :) | 19:53 |
| th1a | A couple other things came up as a result of what srichter is doing that aren't really his problem. | 19:53 |
| ignas | i was doing some, but my changes would have removed the multiple courses per section so i dumped the thing | 19:53 |
| th1a | I'll have to think about it some more. | 19:54 |
| th1a | When would you be able to start? | 19:54 |
| ignas | now ? | 19:54 |
| th1a | OK. | 19:54 |
| th1a | I'll work on it. | 19:54 |
| ignas | ok :) | 19:54 |
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| eldafar | hi | 19:59 |
| th1a | eldafar: hi. | 19:59 |
| th1a | How's it going? | 19:59 |
| eldafar | I'm pretty good, you? | 20:00 |
| th1a | Busy! | 20:00 |
| eldafar | Yes, only school kids are not busy working :V | 20:00 |
| eldafar | I got a quick question.. | 20:00 |
| eldafar | if I'm trying to check out schooltool | 20:00 |
| eldafar | and it keeps stalling, what should I do? keep on trying ... or is something up with the server? | 20:01 |
| th1a | Oh... I don't know. | 20:02 |
| th1a | ignas: Is something up with the svn server? | 20:02 |
| ignas | works for me | 20:02 |
| eldafar | hmm weird | 20:03 |
| th1a | Well, eldafar is a long way from Lithuania. | 20:13 |
| th1a | Where the server lives. | 20:14 |
| eldafar | okay, it finally subdued to my stubborn attempts | 20:15 |
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