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| seb__ | Hi everybody | 04:08 |
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| seb__ | I cannot found "devmode on/off" in schooltool.conf.in | 04:08 |
| seb__ | Can anyone help me? | 04:09 |
| jinty | seb__: probably schooltool.conf.in was not updated. just add it? | 04:10 |
| seb__ | I try to add it, but i'm pretty sure that it cannot be add anywhere in the file. | 04:10 |
| seb__ | Do you know between what and what I should put it? | 04:11 |
| seb__ | Or if you have it, can you send it to me by e-mail? | 04:11 |
| jinty | the order does not matter | 04:15 |
| jinty | how are you sure you cannot add it? | 04:15 |
| seb__ | yeah | 04:15 |
| seb__ | give me a minute | 04:15 |
| jinty | which versionare you usung? | 04:15 |
| seb__ | the lastest one | 04:15 |
| jinty | latest stable? latest svn? or latest nightly tarball? | 04:16 |
| seb__ | 0.11.4 | 04:16 |
| jinty | Ah, that's latest stable, devmode is only avalible from svn or nightly tarball | 04:16 |
| seb__ | Ok | 04:17 |
| seb__ | well | 04:17 |
| seb__ | I talk to Tom Hoffman by e-mail yesterday and I ask him how I should be able to see the structure of SchoolTool and he told me that it was a good way to do so. | 04:17 |
| seb__ | Have any suggestion? | 04:17 |
| jinty | http://demo.schooltool.org ?? | 04:18 |
| jinty | or get a subversion checkout | 04:18 |
| seb__ | Well I install it on my ubuntu server. | 04:18 |
| seb__ | I want to install this in a new school opening in september 2006 | 04:19 |
| seb__ | I'm trying to see which file do what... | 04:19 |
| jinty | http://www.schooltool.org/documentation/setting-up-a-development-server/your-development-environment | 04:21 |
| jinty | perhaps that is what you want? | 04:21 |
| seb__ | nop... | 04:22 |
| seb__ | Maybe I'm not clear | 04:22 |
| seb__ | Sorry | 04:22 |
| seb__ | I'm a french guy doing my best in english. | 04:23 |
| seb__ | Basicly, I install SchoolTool on my server and it's working really find. I was able to add new student and prof on a local ZOPE3 DB. | 04:23 |
| seb__ | I'm wondering how the backend work. I want to customize some few thing cause school work different in Montreal,Canada than in the USA | 04:24 |
| seb__ | As I can understand, most of the code is in /src folder | 04:25 |
| jinty | yep | 04:25 |
| seb__ | But from there it's a bit hard for me to day what do what | 04:25 |
| jinty | ah, well, basically you've gotta understand quite a bit of Zope3 before you can understand schooltool | 04:26 |
| seb__ | I'm working on it | 04:29 |
| seb__ | I have another question than, more easy one I hope. | 04:29 |
| seb__ | In SchoolTool 0.11.4, Is it normal that I don't see any gradebook | 04:31 |
| seb__ | I can't sse any attendance neighter | 04:31 |
| jinty | yep, that functionality is only in the un-released version | 04:31 |
| seb__ | ok good | 04:31 |
| seb__ | As per Tom, it should be release next week in SchoolTool 2006 ? | 04:32 |
| seb__ | right? | 04:32 |
| jinty | there should be an alpha release next week | 04:32 |
| jinty | for testing, not production | 04:32 |
| seb__ | As I can understand, you work on this project ? | 04:33 |
| jinty | yep | 04:34 |
| seb__ | good | 04:34 |
| seb__ | Do you have any suggestion for me about Zope3. Any tutorial or.. | 04:35 |
| jinty | for light customization, you could start with page templates | 04:35 |
| jinty | http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/ZPT.stx | 04:36 |
| jinty | ^^ random tutorial found by google | 04:36 |
| seb__ | good | 04:36 |
| jinty | those are the *.pt files in the source | 04:36 |
| seb__ | Thanks a lot for your help | 04:37 |
| jinty | no worries | 04:37 |
| seb__ | quit | 04:37 |
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| vidasp | va, sveikas, jau maniau niekas nepasirodys | 14:16 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: * vidas committed revision 6257: | 14:28 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Refactored security policy functional semi-doctest, to be continued. | 14:28 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 6258: | 15:11 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Fix functional test breakage. | 15:11 |
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| toxygen | what's correct way of stopping schooltool? just control-c? | 15:31 |
| mgedmin | yes | 15:32 |
| toxygen | thx | 15:37 |
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| ignas | th1a_desk: ayt ? | 16:57 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 6259: | 16:58 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Add access control for section requirements. | 16:58 |
| pcardune | ignas: so what are the final permissions that are going to stick around? | 17:01 |
| ignas | schooltool.edit and schooltool.view and schooltool.add (usage of the add permission is discouraged ;) | 17:02 |
| pcardune | ok thanks | 17:03 |
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| erchache | hi | 17:55 |
| erchache | :-D | 17:55 |
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| erchache | th1a: did you read my mail? | 17:58 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 6260: | 18:10 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Added a TALES adapter to check access to an object. It can be used like this: | 18:10 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: <p tal:condition="context/can_access:title" | 18:10 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: tal:content="context/title" /> | 18:10 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Added use of this adapter in a few templates, updated functional test correspondingly. | 18:10 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * vidas committed revision 6261: | 18:26 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Remove teachers from administration crowd. Disable failing doctests. | 18:26 |
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| paolob-dirbasica | Hi guys! Anyone knows if schooltools is still being developed? | 18:58 |
| gintas | of course | 18:59 |
| gintas | two people are working full time on SchoolTool hee | 18:59 |
| gintas | s/hee/here/ | 18:59 |
| alga | paolob-dirbasica: hang around in this channel and you'll see the commit messages posted here | 18:59 |
| alga | or read the irc log | 18:59 |
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| paolob-dirbasica | gintas, what the scheduled? will we have something usable for the schools before septiember? the web site seems very static! | 19:06 |
| gintas | it's best to talk about these things with Tom Hoffman, our manager | 19:06 |
| gintas | I'm just a lowly programmer :) | 19:07 |
| paolob-dirbasica | gintas, where do I contact him? | 19:07 |
| gintas | although as far as I know we are planning 3-4 deployments this autumn | 19:07 |
| gintas | and any interested people are welcome | 19:07 |
| gintas | paolob-dirbasica: his nick is th1a | 19:08 |
| gintas | he appears to be away at the moment | 19:08 |
| paolob-dirbasica | hi th1a , | 19:08 |
| gintas | his e-mail: tom dot hoffman at gmail dot com | 19:08 |
| th1a | Hi paolob-dirbasica | 19:08 |
| th1a | I was making lunch. | 19:08 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * vidas committed revision 6262: | 19:08 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: More of security functional test. | 19:09 |
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| th1a | paolob-dirbasica: The web site is static because we're focusing on writing code as fast as possible. | 19:09 |
| paolob-dirbasica | th1a, I have a schoolt, we begin the new school year on august 21. What will we have before that date? | 19:09 |
| th1a | We'll have attendance, demographics, and some gradebook/reporting running. | 19:10 |
| th1a | But there is a big difference between running and "I recommend random people commit their school's vital data to the system." | 19:11 |
| paolob-dirbasica | th1a, and what about importing data from the database of another similar program? will be something to import it automatically? | 19:11 |
| th1a | Partially. | 19:13 |
| th1a | That's a big issue. | 19:13 |
| paolob-dirbasica | what database is schooltool working with? postgresql? mysql? | 19:14 |
| gintas | it uses an object database, ZODB | 19:14 |
| paolob-dirbasica | gintas, i.e. a custom one? | 19:14 |
| gintas | not quite | 19:15 |
| gintas | ZODB is a technology shipped with Zope | 19:15 |
| gintas | we use Zope as the platform | 19:15 |
| th1a | paolob-dirbasica: What would you be exporting from? | 19:15 |
| gintas | so it's not custom meaning "made specifically for this project", but "custom" in terms of popularity ;) | 19:16 |
| paolob-dirbasica | th1a, centre | 19:16 |
| th1a | Ah. Where are you? | 19:16 |
| paolob-dirbasica | I have been using it for two years, but very insatisfactoryly. I couldn't perform various operation, I thing the database corrupted. | 19:17 |
| paolob-dirbasica | th1a, I am in dominican republic | 19:17 |
| th1a | Realistically, you'll want to migrate in a year. | 19:18 |
| th1a | We'll have a development release next week that you can try out and give us some feedback on, however. | 19:19 |
| paolob-dirbasica | th1a, how do I manage it in ubuntu? a separate package or will you include in the "security upgrades"? | 19:20 |
| ignas | th1a: one more question :) people don't really have views for their personal gradebooks, is it ok if i'll just skip that part of the access control table ? Oh and we could not find any mentions of archived scores in the documentation too ... | 19:22 |
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| th1a | ignas: It seems like srichter should handle that stuff as he rewrites it. | 19:25 |
| th1a | Right? | 19:25 |
| ignas | hope so | 19:25 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 6263: | 19:42 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Committing security-related fixes for the section view. | 19:42 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: These lack docstrings and unittests (to be added soon), but they already fix a couple functional tests. | 19:42 |
| th1a | jinty: ayt? | 19:48 |
| th1a | Er. I guess he isn't. | 19:49 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 6264: | 19:50 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Fix some attendance permissions. | 19:50 |
| ignas | th1a: what is the plan for the next release ? are we going to have something like a feature freeze and work on the ui, or do you have some more important features planned ? | 20:01 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * vidas committed revision 6265: | 20:02 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: More security functional tests, some commented out. | 20:02 |
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| th1a | ignas: That is a good question. We need some reports. Many bugfixes & UI work. | 20:09 |
| th1a | I mean, we need to be able to generate some reports. | 20:09 |
| ignas | reports a.k.a. pdfs according to some spec provided by a school ? | 20:10 |
| th1a | Yes. | 20:10 |
| th1a | And more useful html reports as well. | 20:10 |
| ignas | oh, and i just recalled my initial question ;) | 20:12 |
| ignas | at what time will you be perticipating in the workshop tomorow | 20:13 |
| ignas | as i could probably try being available on-line in case you or anyone else needs help with access control stuff | 20:13 |
| th1a | ignas It'll be about 9:00 to 4:00 EDT. However, I discovered much to my embarassment that it is Sunday, not tomorrow. | 20:16 |
| ignas | :) | 20:16 |
| th1a | So srichter won't be with me. | 20:16 |
| ignas | :( | 20:16 |
| th1a | I think I can handle it. I'm not expecting a big crowd. | 20:16 |
| ignas | what exactly will be happening there ? | 20:17 |
| th1a | Basically I'm going to be walking people through setting up a complete calendar system for a school. | 20:17 |
| th1a | On a development version of the code ;-) | 20:17 |
| ignas | ouch | 20:18 |
| th1a | And poking around the new parts with them. | 20:18 |
| ignas | you should rehearse tomorrow then | 20:18 |
| th1a | Yes. An extra day helps. | 20:18 |
| ignas | and if you will notice anything not working the way it should yell at me :) | 20:18 |
| th1a | We will file many, many bugs I think. | 20:18 |
| ignas | though if it's a demo sticking to manager user is still the best bet ;) | 20:19 |
| ignas | not that it should be expected to break otherwise | 20:19 |
| th1a | We'll get these people involved in the open source development process whether they want to be or not! | 20:19 |
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| ignas | :) | 20:20 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 6266: | 20:24 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Make attendance data editable by section instructors when appropriate setting is set. | 20:24 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 6267: | 20:32 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Allow section learners see section activities. | 20:32 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 6268: | 20:55 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: A typo. | 20:56 |
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| ignas | th1a: requirement permissions might be flaky (probably are not as far as i know) as we have found a very devious bug in the implementation that prevents access control tests for requirements running properly | 21:08 |
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| ignas | not sure i will manage to find the exact cause | 21:08 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 6269: | 21:19 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Uncomment some tests. | 21:19 |
| ignas | not sure i will manage to find the exact cause | 21:21 |
| ignas | sorry, the curse of "up enter" | 21:21 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: Uncommented a functional test. | 21:25 |
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| th1a | ignas: OK. | 21:44 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: Fixed person preference permissions. | 22:16 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: More functional testing for security, made more human-readable. | 23:54 |
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