IRC log of #schooltool for Thursday, 2006-05-18

th1aspowers:  Still there?05:52
spowersth1a: am now06:59
povbot/svn/commits: * hoffman committed revision 6068:09:01
povbot/svn/commits: Noting where to find timetabling docs.09:01
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SteveAhi th1a09:55
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TvHello people. I have some pointed questions about timezone handling, especially http://issues.schooltool.org/issue47110:27
TvHow likely is it that bug will get fixed shortly, any idea how hard it would be to fix for a capable python hacker with no prior schoolbell/zope experience?10:27
TvIt's currently basically preventing a client of mine from using schoolbell10:28
SteveAhi Tv11:05
SteveAi expect some schooltool developers to be around in 2-3 hours from now11:06
TvI'll repeat that every once in a while, then ;)11:11
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SteveAhi jinty11:42
jintyHey SteveA11:43
SteveAkeybuk had some questions about schooltool/schoolbell and being in main/universe in ubuntu/edubuntu earlier11:43
SteveAi figured you'd know more about it than i would11:43
jintyI suppose keybuk is on #launchpad?11:44
SteveAhe is right now, yes11:45
SteveAalthough, this is more of an #ubuntu-devel question i suppose11:45
jintypinging him there11:49
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jintySteveA: no response from Keybuk, <shrug>12:01
SteveAmaybe having breakfast/lunch12:02
faassenjinty: question for you12:37
faassenjinty: if I want to add zope.app.catalog, zope.app.intid and zope.app.keyreference to the ST dependencies so they automatically show up as ZCML slugs, what does one do?12:38
faassenright now I hardcoded them into the site.zcml12:38
jintyfaassen: your'e going into the zpkg territory12:46
jintyas far as I know you would have to change the12:47
jintySETUP.cfg in zope.app.xxx12:47
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jintyto install the slug in schooltool-skel instead of zopeskel12:47
jintyso probably hardcoding it is the right way to go for now12:49
faassenjinty: I know, I'm in zpkg territory. :)12:49
faassenjinty: okay, I will stick with that. :)12:49
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povbot/svn/commits: * faassen committed revision 6069:13:47
povbot/svn/commits: Include dependencies needed for catalog/search integration.13:47
povbot/svn/commits: * faassen committed revision 6070:13:49
povbot/svn/commits: Add a catalog-based search screen to persons (persons/search.html).13:49
povbot/svn/commits: * add a intid and catalog utility to schooltool13:49
povbot/svn/commits: * fulltext index Person objects on title13:49
povbot/svn/commits: * search screen with integration of batching, column sorting of results.13:49
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th1asrichter:  ayt?14:52
srichterth1a: yep15:05
srichteralready awake?15:05
TvHello people. I have some pointed questions about timezone handling, especially http://issues.schooltool.org/issue47115:15
TvHow likely is it that bug will get fixed shortly, any idea how hard it would be to fix for a capable python hacker with no prior schoolbell/zope experience?15:15
TvIt's currently basically preventing a client of mine from using schoolbell15:15
faassenjinty: you ask for zpkg dependency stuff, rihgt?15:24
faassenjinty: what do I actually do?15:24
jintyfaassen: well normally I just wait until the daily build fails and then fix it up minimally,15:25
jintybut adding the new imports to the DEPENDENCIES.cfg15:25
jintywill save me a lit of time15:25
jintyfor example:15:26
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jintysimply adding the line zope.app.initid to the schooltool/demographics/DEPENDENCIES.cfg file will pull in that module15:27
jintyif schooltool.demographics is included in the release15:28
th1asrichter:  How would you feel about coming down here?15:28
jintynormally I try to add dependencies if the module is imported directly15:28
srichterth1a: too late15:28
srichterth1a: Claudia left already for the day15:29
srichterth1a: we can also move the meeting to Monday15:29
srichterif today is bad for you15:29
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th1aI forgot Jennifer has rowing, which would mean I'd need to leave by 3:00.15:29
th1aOTOH, four hours might be sufficient.15:30
srichteryeah, I think so too15:30
th1aThat's a long enough meeting ;-)15:30
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th1aignas:  issue 471 is one of the timezone shifting bugs.  Is this one fixed?15:31
th1aIn SchoolTool?15:31
ignasth1a: in the new schooltool codebase yes15:31
ignasth1a: changed it to verify-fix15:32
th1aTv:  basically, the bug is fixed in SchoolTool (our school admin system) but we've got limited resources to backport the fix to SchoolBell.15:33
Tvth1a: ah, that's already good news15:33
th1aTv:  What we need is a volunteer maintainer for SchoolBell (hint hint).15:35
Tvth1a: I am likely to be able to look at individual bugs my clients hit, but not more.15:36
th1asrichter:  OK, going to take a shower.15:36
th1aTv:  Any help would be appreciated.15:37
th1aTv:  ignas can probably point you in toward the fix in the SchoolTool source tree.15:37
Tvignas: If you can do that, I'll likely backport the fix in a few days. Please add stuff to the bug report. Thank you.15:39
ignasTv: added a comment15:44
faassenjinty: okay, I'll add a DEPENCENCIES.cfg file, thanks15:56
th1asrichter:  Heading out.15:58
srichterth1a: ok15:59
jintyfaassen: thanks, I replied about my savepoint niggle16:01
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povbot/svn/commits: * faassen committed revision 6071:16:05
povbot/svn/commits: To please zpkg.16:05
povbot/svn/commits: * faassen committed revision 6072:16:08
povbot/svn/commits: * make deleting items work (including situation where objects16:08
povbot/svn/commits: cannot be deleted because they have dependents)16:08
povbot/svn/commits: * refactor table and search display so they use a common macro.16:08
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faassenjinty: okay, I'll try the modification, thanks. :)16:10
povbot/svn/commits: * faassen committed revision 6073:16:28
povbot/svn/commits: Works better in the presence of data managers which do not support savepoints.16:28
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povbot/svn/commits: * mg committed revision 6074:17:47
povbot/svn/commits: Sample attendance data fix: do not generate homeroom absences followed by section presences.  Do not generate both homeroom and section absences/tardies for the same period with two different explanations.17:47
povbot/svn/commits: Fixes issue 489.17:47
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povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 6075:18:37
povbot/svn/commits: Added a new security policy based on "crowds".  A crowd is a basically a group, but we are only interested in its membership test function.18:38
povbot/svn/commits: Permissions for the new security policy can be defined in ZCML.18:38
povbot/svn/commits: The new policy breaks the functional tests badly, so I have not enabled it yet in the global configuration.  When Ignas gets rid of the offending tests, the policy will be enabled by default on trunk.18:38
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erchacheth1a: hi tom!19:01
erchachehow are you?19:01
povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 6076:19:02
povbot/svn/commits: Fixed wrong field designation.19:02
erchachei dont touch schooltool yet because i have a lot of work19:02
erchacheim very very busy...i think on June have more time to schooltool19:02
th1a|X60serchache:  I'm actually meeting f2f with srichter right now.19:03
erchacheahhh ok19:03
erchachei can wait :-D19:03
faassencool, a new security policy. :)19:46
faassendoesn't use relationships yet.19:48
povbot/svn/commits: * faassen committed revision 6077:19:50
povbot/svn/commits: Add a date picker widget using the schooltool javascript, and use it in the demographics package.19:50
povbot/svn/commits: We can start modifying any place this javascript is used in Schooltool and replace it with this widget.19:50
faassenth1a: search and all that stuff is hooked up now, have fun. :)19:59
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povbot/svn/commits: * mg committed revision 6078:20:40
povbot/svn/commits: Make some assumptions about timezones made by the code explicit (and mark them with XXXes).  Mark some slightly incorrect code that calls datetime.date.today.  Do some minor refactorings.  Fix a small bug in ExpandedCalendarEvent.__init__ (datetime().replace is a function without side effects).20:40
povbot/svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 6079:20:45
povbot/svn/commits: Create a branch for new security policy work.20:45
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