| pcardune | ok, robbie, I've added you as a student to the class i created | 00:01 |
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| pcardune | go ahead and log in as yourself | 00:01 |
| _rjelliso | Alright | 00:01 |
| pcardune | and click on your name in the upper right corner | 00:03 |
| * _rjelliso has done so | 00:04 | |
| pcardune | You can click on A under competencies | 00:04 |
| _rjelliso | ... and here we have the list of competencies. | 00:05 |
| pcardune | correct | 00:05 |
| pcardune | when you complete a competency, you can add evidence for it | 00:05 |
| pcardune | I will see the evidence, check it out, and then evaluate you for that competency | 00:06 |
| _rjelliso | Alrighty | 00:07 |
| pcardune | and that's pretty much it | 00:07 |
| pcardune | do you have any questions? | 00:08 |
| jelkner | pcardune: can we rename the course to "Hacking CanDo"? | 00:08 |
| pcardune | yes... except that it is really about zope3... and not necessarily cando | 00:09 |
| jelkner | ok | 00:09 |
| jelkner | but robbie is going to work on cando, or other zope3 stuff? | 00:09 |
| jelkner | i thought we agreed he could try jumping right into cando | 00:10 |
| jelkner | tom suggested that to me | 00:10 |
| pcardune | yes absolutely... but the competencies are zope3 competencies | 00:10 |
| pcardune | not cando ones | 00:10 |
| jelkner | gotcha | 00:10 |
| pcardune | cando is one way to fulfill those comeptencies | 00:10 |
| jelkner | very well then | 00:10 |
| jelkner | robbie, do you know what to do next? | 00:10 |
| _rjelliso | Well, I can guess, but what? | 00:11 |
| jelkner | i don't know (so i guess we're not finished after all ;-) | 00:11 |
| jelkner | teach, what do u say? | 00:11 |
| pcardune | well, if he is going to hack on cando, we need to discuss svn access | 00:11 |
| jelkner | too early for that | 00:12 |
| jelkner | i think we need to move to bzr, btw | 00:12 |
| jelkner | then he could simply create his own branch | 00:12 |
| jelkner | and you could pull code from him | 00:12 |
| jelkner | he is a beginner | 00:12 |
| pcardune | right | 00:13 |
| jelkner | i don't want to ask for svn access at this point | 00:13 |
| pcardune | I don't know how easy it will be to use both bzr and svn at the same time | 00:13 |
| jelkner | what would it take to move cando to bzr? | 00:13 |
| jelkner | i could take that up with tom | 00:13 |
| pcardune | yeah... i dont know... because we would want to save all the previous revisions | 00:14 |
| pcardune | i don't know if there is an easy way to cross over | 00:14 |
| pcardune | or even if bzr is mature enough | 00:14 |
| jelkner | but we are going to have the same issues when will, will, david, and linda join in as well | 00:14 |
| jelkner | even more during the sprint | 00:14 |
| jelkner | bzr rocks! | 00:15 |
| jelkner | it makes this sort of thing so much easier to manage | 00:15 |
| jelkner | in the mean time, lets do this | 00:15 |
| jelkner | 1. you create a bzr branch of the code at this point | 00:15 |
| jelkner | (robbie will not need to look back) | 00:16 |
| jelkner | 2. robbie make a branch from you and works on his own branc | 00:16 |
| jelkner | s/branc/branch | 00:16 |
| jelkner | you pull from robbies branch | 00:16 |
| jelkner | and check into svn yourself | 00:16 |
| jelkner | how does that sound? | 00:16 |
| pcardune | works for me | 00:17 |
| jelkner | let me run it by tom before we actually set it up | 00:17 |
| jelkner | for now, robbie should just work on the stuff he pulled from svn, and give the files to you (by email or something) | 00:17 |
| jelkner | to check in | 00:17 |
| jelkner | we can leave as soon as you give robbie his first assignment | 00:18 |
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| pcardune | ok | 00:19 |
| * jelkner and rjelliso wait with anticipation for pcardune to provide the assignment... | 00:19 | |
| pcardune | well, the first job is going to be pretty lame | 00:19 |
| jelkner | lame is good | 00:20 |
| jelkner | he is just starting out, after all | 00:20 |
| pcardune | It won't really involve any coding | 00:20 |
| pcardune | but it should give you a very nice tour of the code | 00:20 |
| jelkner | stop appologizing and give the assignment! ;-) | 00:20 |
| pcardune | ok, | 00:20 |
| pcardune | well, at the top of every python file, there is suppose to be a big long comment explaining the license this is under | 00:20 |
| pcardune | some of the python files don't have this | 00:21 |
| pcardune | I need you to find those python files, and add that to the top | 00:21 |
| _rjelliso | Alrighty | 00:21 |
| jelkner | hmm... this is important | 00:21 |
| pcardune | yes... very | 00:21 |
| jelkner | but we don't have copyright stuff in place yet | 00:21 |
| jelkner | it is GPL | 00:21 |
| _rjelliso | You're right, not much coding... but better than me jumping right into it and blowing up the computer | 00:21 |
| jelkner | joint copyright Shuttleworth Foundation and Arlington Public Schools | 00:22 |
| pcardune | also, some of the copyrights on the files say Paul Carduner and Eldar Omuraliev | 00:22 |
| pcardune | that needs to change as well | 00:22 |
| jelkner | great | 00:22 |
| pcardune | along with the copyright dates (some say 2005) | 00:22 |
| pcardune | the next thing you can do will increase your love for PEP 8 | 00:23 |
| pcardune | and PEP 257 | 00:23 |
| pcardune | these are the python style guides | 00:24 |
| pcardune | and in general the zope style guides | 00:24 |
| _rjelliso | Any nice links where I could find them? | 00:24 |
| _rjelliso | Too lazy to google : > | 00:24 |
| tiredbones | http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/docs/ActivePython/2.3/peps/pep-0008.html | 00:24 |
| pcardune | yeah, i'm looking for them but for some reason my internet has slowed to a crawl just now | 00:25 |
| _rjelliso | Alrighty, thanks | 00:25 |
| _rjelliso | Sorry for jumping off abruptly like this -- late buses coming, gotta run | 00:25 |
| jelkner | me too | 00:25 |
| jelkner | thanks, pcardune! | 00:25 |
| _rjelliso | Thanks : > | 00:25 |
| jelkner | talk to you soon... | 00:25 |
| pcardune | thank you | 00:25 |
| pcardune | yes | 00:25 |
| pcardune | bye | 00:25 |
| _rjelliso | Talk to you later, then | 00:25 |
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