| pcardune | jelkner: I'm nearly done with welsh | 00:15 |
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| pcardune | jelkner: ayt? I'm done | 00:18 |
| jelkner | cool | 00:18 |
| jelkner | rjelliso is trying to check out cando | 00:18 |
| jelkner | and the sytem hangs | 00:18 |
| jelkner | that happened to me too | 00:18 |
| jelkner | until i tried again this morning and all went well | 00:18 |
| jelkner | make would start | 00:19 |
| jelkner | and then the system would just hang | 00:19 |
| jelkner | at different places too | 00:19 |
| pcardune | hmm | 00:19 |
| jelkner | i tried 5 times | 00:19 |
| pcardune | probably because make checks out from other repositories | 00:19 |
| jelkner | then i gave up | 00:19 |
| jelkner | that was yesterday | 00:19 |
| jelkner | this morning, all went well | 00:19 |
| pcardune | if those repositories are disconnected or off... it will hang | 00:19 |
| jelkner | but now robbie is having the same problem | 00:19 |
| jelkner | rjellsio: u here? | 00:20 |
| rjelliso | Yup. | 00:20 |
| jelkner | good | 00:20 |
| jelkner | why don't we try just using my instance for the time being | 00:21 |
| jelkner | pcardune: how to i change the port on which it runs? | 00:21 |
| pcardune | edit schooltool.conf | 00:21 |
| pcardune | or rather, mv schooltool.conf.in to schooltool.conf... then edit it | 00:21 |
| jelkner | ahh | 00:21 |
| jelkner | i was about to say "i only have schooltool.conf.in" ;-) | 00:22 |
| jelkner | now if i launch schooltool with the server script, closing my shell will kill it, yes? | 00:23 |
| pcardune | probably | 00:23 |
| jelkner | yes, it will | 00:23 |
| pcardune | it might work with an ampersand at the end... I'm not sure cause I haven't tried it | 00:23 |
| jelkner | just tried that | 00:23 |
| jelkner | now let me close the shell | 00:24 |
| jelkner | still running, good! | 00:24 |
| jelkner | how do i log in? | 00:24 |
| jelkner | http://bonnieb.yhspatriot.net:7085 | 00:25 |
| jelkner | let's create a class | 00:25 |
| jelkner | make me the admin | 00:25 |
| jelkner | you the teacher | 00:25 |
| jelkner | and robbie the student | 00:25 |
| pcardune | user/passwd is manager/schooltool | 00:26 |
| pcardune | by default | 00:26 |
| jelkner | that worked | 00:26 |
| jelkner | can i change it? | 00:26 |
| pcardune | yeah | 00:27 |
| jelkner | obviously, but how? ;-) | 00:27 |
| jelkner | that was supposed to be a leading question... | 00:27 |
| pcardune | ooh | 00:27 |
| pcardune | click on schooltool manager in the upper right corner | 00:28 |
| pcardune | then edit name | 00:28 |
| jelkner | gotit | 00:28 |
| jelkner | ok, lets start | 00:28 |
| jelkner | we want a class, Mastering Zope3 | 00:29 |
| jelkner | with you as teacher | 00:29 |
| jelkner | and Robbie as your first student | 00:29 |
| pcardune | ok | 00:30 |
| pcardune | do i have an account? | 00:30 |
| jelkner | not yest | 00:30 |
| jelkner | yet | 00:30 |
| pcardune | that is the first thing i need, go into Persons | 00:30 |
| pcardune | and click on add person | 00:31 |
| jelkner | you mean New Person | 00:31 |
| jelkner | i don't see add person | 00:31 |
| pcardune | yeah | 00:31 |
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| jelkner | ok | 00:32 |
| jelkner | you are pcardune | 00:32 |
| jelkner | u know your password | 00:33 |
| jelkner | you are teacher, site manager, and school administrator! ;-) | 00:33 |
| pcardune | ok, good | 00:33 |
| pcardune | do you want me to add the courses and such, or do you want to do that? | 00:33 |
| jelkner | i should be student and site manager | 00:33 |
| jelkner | and robbie should be student | 00:34 |
| jelkner | or perhaps i should also be school administrator | 00:34 |
| jelkner | what do the rolls mean? | 00:34 |
| pcardune | well, you need to adjust the permissions first | 00:34 |
| jelkner | roles | 00:34 |
| pcardune | where are you now? | 00:34 |
| jelkner | i don't exist yet | 00:34 |
| pcardune | no i mean, what page are you the human person looking at | 00:35 |
| jelkner | http://bonnieb.yhspatriot.net:7085/persons | 00:35 |
| pcardune | ok | 00:35 |
| jelkner | rjelliso is tired | 00:35 |
| jelkner | he stayed up all night working on geography | 00:36 |
| * rjelliso snores. | 00:36 | |
| pcardune | click on the really big Schooltool picture at the top | 00:36 |
| jelkner | i want to get him setup and let him go to sleep | 00:36 |
| rjelliso | It's my own fault, though : > | 00:36 |
| jelkner | but that didn't stop him from being the only person all day to get a perfect score on the oop test in cs! | 00:36 |
| pcardune | jelkner: are you following my directions? | 00:37 |
| jelkner | which directions? (i guess not) | 00:37 |
| pcardune | click on the big zebra at the top | 00:37 |
| jelkner | done | 00:37 |
| pcardune | then click on set up access under actions | 00:37 |
| jelkner | done | 00:37 |
| pcardune | give me all the permissions | 00:38 |
| pcardune | :) | 00:38 |
| jelkner | done | 00:38 |
| pcardune | hmm... it doesn't seem to trickle down | 00:39 |
| jelkner | btw how did it go with dave? | 00:39 |
| pcardune | it went well | 00:39 |
| jelkner | good | 00:39 |
| pcardune | why don't you give me the manager password | 00:39 |
| jelkner | we need to figure out why it didn't work | 00:40 |
| pcardune | well it does work | 00:41 |
| jelkner | hmm? | 00:41 |
| pcardune | it's just that you have to set the permissions on each of the root folders | 00:41 |
| pcardune | i.e. Persons, Groups, Courses, Sections, etc. | 00:41 |
| jelkner | ahh | 00:41 |
| pcardune | although I think you might just be able to add me to certain groups | 00:41 |
| jelkner | sounds to confusing | 00:41 |
| jelkner | i wonder if that could be simplified | 00:41 |
| jelkner | s/to/too | 00:42 |
| jelkner | so, what's happening? | 00:43 |
| pcardune | i'm playing with permissions | 00:43 |
| jelkner | ok, do we need to keep robbie here? | 00:43 |
| pcardune | yes | 00:44 |
| pcardune | just stay logged in as manager | 00:44 |
| pcardune | and add robbie | 00:44 |
| pcardune | as a person | 00:44 |
| pcardune | and add yourself as a person | 00:44 |
| pcardune | and whoever else you want | 00:44 |
| jelkner | will do | 00:44 |
| pcardune | then we can add course and section and get this setup | 00:44 |
| pcardune | let's just set up everything as manager and we wont have to worry about permissions until later | 00:45 |
| pcardune | do you want me to create the courses and section, or do you want to do that? | 00:45 |
| pcardune | actually, you know what, I don't think we will need to keep robbie for now | 00:46 |
| jelkner | ? | 00:46 |
| jelkner | i just added him | 00:46 |
| jelkner | at least he can try to log in | 00:46 |
| pcardune | ok | 00:46 |
| jelkner | rjelliso | 00:47 |
| jelkner | give it a try | 00:47 |
| pcardune | that's fine, there just wont be much else to look at | 00:47 |
| rjelliso | Logged in. | 00:47 |
| jelkner | yes | 00:47 |
| rjelliso | "Calendar for Robbie Jellison"... etc. | 00:47 |
| jelkner | and change your password | 00:47 |
| jelkner | yup | 00:47 |
| jelkner | pcardune: is that all we need him for (for now)? | 00:47 |
| pcardune | yeah i think so | 00:47 |
| jelkner | rjellso: thanks! (now go get some sleep) | 00:48 |
| rjelliso | password changed : > Thanks, I'll do that. | 00:48 |
| rjelliso | Have fun ; ) | 00:48 |
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| pcardune | ok, do you want to create the Course? | 00:48 |
| jelkner | now what? | 00:49 |
| pcardune | click on Courses | 00:49 |
| pcardune | and then click on New Course | 00:49 |
| pcardune | and Enter in the appropriate information | 00:49 |
| jelkner | done | 00:50 |
| jelkner | then click on course and add section, yes? | 00:50 |
| pcardune | yep | 00:51 |
| jelkner | done | 00:51 |
| pcardune | then edit instructor and add me | 00:52 |
| pcardune | and under students click edit individual and add yourself and Robbie | 00:52 |
| jelkner | done | 00:52 |
| jelkner | i was two steps ahead of you ;-) | 00:52 |
| jelkner | but there are no competencies yet | 00:53 |
| jelkner | so what's up with that drop down box next to the students | 00:53 |
| jelkner | ? | 00:53 |
| pcardune | you didn't add robbie as a student yet | 00:53 |
| pcardune | jelkner: where do you see the drop down box? | 00:54 |
| jelkner | feedback: after you add the students, there needs to be a "finished" or "done" box or something | 00:54 |
| jelkner | i wandered off where I shouldn't have been | 00:54 |
| jelkner | i thought i was adding students to the section | 00:55 |
| jelkner | but i was doing something else | 00:55 |
| pcardune | talk to tom about that kind of stuff... | 00:55 |
| pcardune | the user interface needs a major overhaul | 00:56 |
| pcardune | i believe they have someone hired for some work on that | 00:56 |
| jelkner | indeed | 00:56 |
| jelkner | good | 00:56 |
| pcardune | I saw an email about sending around html mock-ups | 00:56 |
| jelkner | hopefully, we can get volunteers to go through the process of setting up classes like this and watch what they do | 00:56 |
| jelkner | user centered design and all... | 00:56 |
| pcardune | yeah | 00:57 |
| jelkner | but for now, we have a class, and we have two students in it | 00:57 |
| pcardune | ok | 00:57 |
| pcardune | i'm going to add competencies to the course | 00:57 |
| jelkner | can we call it a day then? | 00:57 |
| pcardune | check out http://bonnieb.yhspatriot.net:7085/courses/cs_zope3/++competencies++/@@index.html | 00:58 |
| jelkner | and continue next tuesday? | 00:58 |
| jelkner | hold on... | 00:58 |
| pcardune | or rather... look at http://bonnieb.yhspatriot.net:7085/courses/cs_zope3/++competencies++/@@treeindex.html | 00:58 |
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| jelkner | wow! | 00:59 |
| jelkner | how did you do that so fast? | 00:59 |
| pcardune | those are some intial competencies I came up with | 00:59 |
| pcardune | import :) | 00:59 |
| jelkner | yeah! | 01:00 |
| pcardune | from csv | 01:00 |
| jelkner | great | 01:00 |
| jelkner | that does it for now | 01:00 |
| pcardune | yeah | 01:00 |
| jelkner | we will continue with robbie next week | 01:00 |
| pcardune | ok | 01:00 |
| jelkner | for the rest of the year his only assignment will be to work through this course to complete his competencies | 01:01 |
| jelkner | and to develop a portfolio | 01:01 |
| jelkner | and be your lab rat for testing curriculum ;-) | 01:01 |
| pcardune | where will the portfolio be? | 01:01 |
| jelkner | hmm | 01:01 |
| jelkner | we will need to figure that out | 01:01 |
| pcardune | (not ready in cando yet) | 01:01 |
| jelkner | linus? | 01:01 |
| jelkner | are links ready yet? | 01:02 |
| * th1a thinks we need to work on that navigation. | 01:02 | |
| pcardune | what kind of links? | 01:02 |
| pcardune | curriculum links? | 01:02 |
| pcardune | yes | 01:02 |
| jelkner | and evidence links | 01:02 |
| jelkner | th1a: hey tom | 01:02 |
| pcardune | th1a, also, you can't set system wide permissions, you have to do it individually for each of the root folders (Persons, Courses, etc.) | 01:03 |
| pcardune | evidence links: no | 01:03 |
| jelkner | how long? | 01:03 |
| jelkner | i want that badly | 01:03 |
| jelkner | it isn't really useful for me until we have that | 01:03 |
| pcardune | i guess that depends on how badly you want it | 01:04 |
| jelkner | *badly* | 01:04 |
| pcardune | i could make that a priority | 01:04 |
| jelkner | please | 01:04 |
| pcardune | ok | 01:04 |
| jelkner | there needs to be a way for robbie to post evidence | 01:04 |
| jelkner | linked to each competency | 01:04 |
| jelkner | that's what i'm really looking for | 01:04 |
| pcardune | ok | 01:05 |
| pcardune | i'll do that for next week then | 01:05 |
| jelkner | cool | 01:05 |
| jelkner | ok, i'm exhausted | 01:05 |
| jelkner | see you next tuesday | 01:05 |
| jelkner | btw. any word from ccarlson? | 01:05 |
| pcardune | nope | 01:05 |
| jelkner | he was out sick | 01:06 |
| pcardune | oh | 01:06 |
| jelkner | i'll stop by and see him when we get back | 01:06 |
| pcardune | well I do need that info | 01:06 |
| pcardune | ok | 01:06 |
| pcardune | wait, when will that be? | 01:06 |
| jelkner | cya tuesday... | 01:06 |
| jelkner | a week from next tuesday | 01:06 |
| pcardune | ok | 01:06 |
| pcardune | cya tuesday then | 01:06 |
| jelkner | you need to know sooner than that? | 01:06 |
| pcardune | sooner would be better | 01:07 |
| jelkner | but could you wait if you needed to? | 01:07 |
| jelkner | i'll try to call | 01:07 |
| pcardune | i think so | 01:07 |
| pcardune | ok | 01:07 |
| pcardune | thanks | 01:07 |
| jelkner | but i already left him a message | 01:07 |
| jelkner | bye... | 01:07 |
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| herbheart | hey all. How's the LDAP Hacking going on schooltool? | 19:15 |
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| herbheart | hey all. How's the LDAP Hacking going on schooltool? | 20:27 |
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