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| tiredbones | Is there a utilitie that lets me look at Data.fs? | 17:07 |
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| tiredbones | Out side of zope. | 17:07 |
| mgedmin | /bin/ls? | 17:08 |
| mgedmin | seriously, what exactly would you like to see inside? | 17:08 |
| mgedmin | there was a Python script for dumping a list of transactions and object records inside a Data.fs | 17:08 |
| tiredbones | I want to see the the object I added is recorded. | 17:08 |
| mgedmin | there was a tool that printed statistics on the numbers of objects stored and their sizes | 17:08 |
| mgedmin | debugzope is a very useful script | 17:09 |
| mgedmin | it loads your ZCML and opens the Data.fs, then gives you a Python prompy | 17:09 |
| mgedmin | you can do anything in that prompt | 17:09 |
| tiredbones | I can't see it from zope and I get no errors. | 17:09 |
| mgedmin | debugger.root() returns the root folder from the ZODB | 17:09 |
| mgedmin | then you can poke around, look at the objects contained within, etc | 17:10 |
| srichter | most likely your component is not persistent | 18:09 |
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| tiredbones | srichter, Can you clarify something for me. If I download schooltool from the trunk do I need to create an instance for it? | 19:16 |
| mgedmin | tiredbones: no | 19:26 |
| tiredbones | mgedmin, where to install? here - /usr/local/Zope-3.2/zope3 or here /usr/local/Zope-3.2/zope3/src? | 19:46 |
| tiredbones | mgedmin, or how do you have it? | 19:47 |
| th1a | Where to install your checkin? | 19:47 |
| th1a | Checkout, | 19:47 |
| th1a | I mean. | 19:47 |
| tiredbones | checkout | 19:48 |
| th1a | Zope 3 checkout? | 19:48 |
| tiredbones | th1a, schooltool | 19:48 |
| th1a | SchoolTool gets its own Zope 3 checkout. | 19:49 |
| th1a | So you could just go to /usr/local/ and checkout the schooltool trunk. | 19:49 |
| th1a | A Zope3 instance will be downloaded into the SchoolTool root when you do 'make.' | 19:50 |
| tiredbones | th1a, the web page had the svn command for doing svn, I don't see it there. Could youpoint me to it? | 19:51 |
| th1a | http://source.schooltool.org | 19:52 |
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| tiredbones | th1a, does schoolbell come with that download? | 19:55 |
| th1a | tiredbones: Sort of. | 19:55 |
| th1a | Future versions of SchoolBell will be derived from the same source tree, but we haven't actually done that yet. | 19:55 |
| tiredbones | th1a, I'm going to give another try. I think I got rid of my seg faults. | 19:56 |
| th1a | Let's hope so. | 19:56 |
| th1a | srichter: I was thinking today that we are going to need to make a different class of requirements for things which aren't actually required of the kids, but have to be completed by teachers. | 19:58 |
| th1a | That is, like "final grade" | 19:58 |
| th1a | or St. Ives "E" and "A." | 19:58 |
| th1a | This might be called "Assessment" | 19:58 |
| th1a | They don't have to have a lot of different functionality, | 19:58 |
| th1a | initially, | 19:59 |
| th1a | but they have a very different role. | 19:59 |
| th1a | "Final grade" should show up in a teacher's gradebook, | 19:59 |
| th1a | but not in a student's list of upcoming assignments, however. | 19:59 |
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| pcardune | tiredbones: did you ever figure out the solutions to the problems you were having? | 21:24 |
| pcardune | I saw your emails but haven't had a chance to reply | 21:24 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, Hi Paul, yes I did. I can to get a better understning of what an instance was. | 22:05 |
| tiredbones | s/can/had | 22:05 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, ayt | 22:07 |
| pcardune | hi tiredbones | 22:10 |
| tiredbones | hi | 22:10 |
| pcardune | so, do you have any questions left? | 22:11 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, how dow I see the object that was created/ | 22:11 |
| pcardune | well, after you click on the type of object you want to add, then enter a name for it, then click the "apply" button, you should see a link to the object | 22:12 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, is "apply" the same as add? | 22:16 |
| pcardune | tiredbones: in this case, yes | 22:17 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, I just added another object add I don't see anything. where do I see this link? | 22:18 |
| pcardune | it should be in http://localhost:8080/@@contents | 22:19 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, should I have to key in the http address? | 22:19 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, or do I just click on some icon? | 22:20 |
| pcardune | you can click on "top" | 22:22 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, when I enter this,http://localhost:8080/@@contents, I get an error message that the page is not available. | 22:22 |
| pcardune | if you are using runzope to run the zope server (instead of zopectl) then you can look at any error messages that may have come up | 22:23 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, when I add my object I go to the screen where I started zope to see if an error message is recorded there, nothing. | 22:24 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, I use runzope | 22:24 |
| pcardune | what is the URL displayed when you adding the object? | 22:25 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, this time I have something different, http://localhost:8080/+/AddPersonContainer.html%3D | 22:26 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, I also gor a system error has occur. | 22:26 |
| pcardune | if you send me a tarball of your code I will look at it | 22:27 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, On the screen where we add are objects there is a button for "refresh", what actual gets refreshed? | 22:28 |
| pcardune | in this case, nothing. It doesn't really do anything. | 22:29 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, I compaired my code with what's on the site. I'll look over it again, although some things are missing, but I took the info from the irc logs. | 22:31 |
| pcardune | ok | 22:31 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, Can I ask a Q. about your last email, where we talked about testing? | 22:32 |
| pcardune | sure | 22:32 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, you said, "Each grouping of python commands is considered one test." what defines the beginning of a group and how in the end marked? | 22:34 |
| pcardune | I believe it's by indentation | 22:35 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, if I have >>>1+1=2, True, is the one group/ | 22:36 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, in other words does the test beigin with >>> | 22:37 |
| pcardune | yeah | 22:37 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, and end with True | 22:37 |
| pcardune | correct, unless you have more python statements after "True" | 22:38 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, just to make sure I understand, test beigin >>>1+1=2 True now something else >>> print "cool" cool. do I have two test? | 22:39 |
| pcardune | no, you have one | 22:40 |
| pcardune | if you separate these python statements by a comment (just regular text that is not indented and not preceded by >>>), then you would have two tests | 22:41 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, I new I making this to hard. | 22:42 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, are you the only person working on CanDo? | 22:43 |
| pcardune | there is one other developer at the moment | 22:43 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, Can one use svn to checkout cando? | 22:44 |
| pcardune | yeah | 22:44 |
| tiredbones | pcardune, thanks for your time. | 22:44 |
| pcardune | no problem | 22:44 |
| tiredbones | th1a, ayt | 22:56 |
| th1a | YEs. | 22:56 |
| tiredbones | th1a, I'm get an error from running 'make build update-translations' I'm missing "src/schooltool/locales//schoolbell.pot. Is this a problem in going forward? | 22:58 |
| tiredbones | th1a, this was download last week. | 22:58 |
| th1a | It shouldn't interfere with what you're trying to do. | 22:58 |
| tiredbones | th1a, I can go ahead with test and ftest? | 22:59 |
| th1a | Yes. | 22:59 |
| tiredbones | the test are still ticking. | 23:21 |
| tiredbones | I was reading the zope3-dev archives and came across a note that faassen wrote a book on zope3. I tried googling for it, but had no luck. Is anyone aware of the name of his book/ | 23:33 |
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