| th1a | OK, I'm not entirely sure which roles you need to do translations. | 00:00 |
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| th1a | Log into schooltool.org | 00:01 |
| th1a | And go to http://www.schooltool.org/about-this-website | 00:01 |
| huats | done | 00:01 |
| th1a | Do you see the green tabbed frame around the content. | 00:01 |
| huats | yep | 00:02 |
| huats | Oh by theway I am quite use to work/devel with plone | 00:02 |
| huats | :-) | 00:02 |
| huats | I forgot to tell you that | 00:02 |
| th1a | OK, so you're a "Reviewer" now. | 00:02 |
| huats | ok | 00:02 |
| th1a | Do you have the "Translate into" option? | 00:02 |
| th1a | Menu? | 00:02 |
| huats | yes | 00:03 |
| * tvon tips his hat | 00:03 | |
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| th1a | huats: OK, try that. | 00:05 |
| * th1a had to discuss dinner with mrs. th1a | 00:05 | |
| huats | I've just try but it's say that my priviledges aren't enought | 00:05 |
| th1a | tvon: Do you know how we can translate a ZPT? | 00:06 |
| th1a | OK. I'll boost you, huats. | 00:06 |
| huats | ok | 00:06 |
| th1a | huats: Try it now. | 00:06 |
| huats | ok now it works | 00:06 |
| huats | can I start translating it ? | 00:07 |
| th1a | tvon: We're using LinguaPlone for all the Archetypes-based content (works with Quills, btw, if you change an import), but the front page is just a ZPT. | 00:07 |
| th1a | huats: Go nuts. | 00:07 |
| huats | I am on it... at least after a little phone talk to miss huats | 00:08 |
| th1a | Also, you might want to check http://www.schooltool.org/weblog/archive/2006/01/19/translating-schooltoolorg and http://www.schooltool.org/weblog/archive/2006/01/18/who-visits-schooltoolorg which I did using Google's translator. | 00:08 |
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| huats | th1a, sorry for the delay, but the phone call just ended | 00:24 |
| th1a | No problem. | 00:24 |
| huats | I don't know if I'll be able to have a look at your "google translation" tonight, but I'll tomorrow (I am loving in France, and the evening has started for a long time) | 00:25 |
| th1a | huats: That's fine. We appreciate any help. | 00:26 |
| huats | In fact it will soon be considered a part of my job : I have to promote the Open Source activites inside my company, and to be cutting edge on that... | 00:27 |
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| huats | Is the current behaviour of the http://www.schooltool.org/about-this-website is normal ? | 00:50 |
| huats | th1a, right now it tells me that this page dies not exists in english... | 00:51 |
| huats | th1a, or in spanish | 00:51 |
| huats | is it normal ? | 00:51 |
| th1a | I'm not sure. | 00:52 |
| th1a | I haven't used this before either. | 00:52 |
| huats | neither do I | 00:52 |
| th1a | But it doesn't seem to know that the page exists in English. | 00:52 |
| srichter | th1a: Well, shoudl about-this-website have Englsih content? | 00:53 |
| th1a | Perhaps because the pages were created before we installed LinguaPlone. | 00:53 |
| srichter | if so, this is not the expected behavior | 00:53 |
| th1a | Well, it is in English already. | 00:53 |
| srichter | but I cannot get the English version anymore | 00:53 |
| th1a | Aha. | 00:53 |
| huats | of course it is, I've translated it from english | 00:53 |
| th1a | Let me have a look. | 00:53 |
| th1a | OK, something bad happened. | 00:55 |
| huats | th1a, please tell me that I have uck up everything | 00:55 |
| huats | I have switch the default language and delete the previous one ? | 00:55 |
| th1a | I'm not sure what happened. | 00:56 |
| huats | ok I thinj I have an idea | 00:57 |
| huats | I am about to try to clear thaht | 00:57 |
| th1a | huats: You did "Translate into" > "Francais" | 01:01 |
| th1a | ANd then fill out the forms? | 01:02 |
| huats | that's what I think at least | 01:02 |
| th1a | Hm... It didn't seem tricky when I tried it last night. | 01:02 |
| huats | please tell me that I haven't "click on manage translations" | 01:02 |
| th1a | You shouldn't have needed to. | 01:03 |
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| th1a | I wonder if it got confused because French is the default on your browser. | 01:03 |
| huats | I know that I shouldn't have to | 01:03 |
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| huats | as a matter of a fact it is not | 01:03 |
| huats | my browser is in english | 01:04 |
| th1a | OK. | 01:04 |
| th1a | When you edited it, did you insert all those links in by hand? | 01:04 |
| huats | no | 01:05 |
| huats | I just replace the existing sentences | 01:05 |
| th1a | Well, I'm not sure what happened. | 01:06 |
| th1a | But I should be able to fix easily enough. | 01:06 |
| th1a | And I'll create a little documentation tonight. | 01:07 |
| huats | I think you can using the zmi | 01:07 |
| th1a | Can what? Undo? | 01:07 |
| huats | yep | 01:07 |
| th1a | I didn't have any luck with that for some reason. | 01:07 |
| huats | oh really ? | 01:07 |
| th1a | It tells me that there are no transactions that can be undone at all. | 01:08 |
| huats | that's weird | 01:08 |
| th1a | I know. I haven't been working with Zope 2 much. | 01:08 |
| th1a | OK, I must go make dinner now, or mrs. th1a will be mad. | 01:09 |
| huats | ok | 01:09 |
| huats | I wait til you return | 01:09 |
| huats | it is my mess... | 01:09 |
| huats | it is my fault... | 01:09 |
| huats | so I wait :-) | 01:09 |
| th1a | I'll figure out what's going on. You don't have to wait... it is getting late there. | 01:09 |
| huats | don't worry except if you return in 3hours... | 01:09 |
| huats | but if it is the case mrs thla should be a very good cook... And I want to visit you :-) | 01:10 |
| huats | th1a|inux, when you return give me a line | 01:39 |
| th1a | huats: OK, I"m back. | 01:54 |
| th1a | We had ostrich filets. | 01:55 |
| th1a | I cooked them a little too long. | 01:55 |
| huats | i've never tried that | 01:55 |
| th1a | It is very lean. | 01:55 |
| huats | I think so | 01:55 |
| th1a | I like it. | 01:56 |
| huats | well I think we point the pb : i might have click on manage traduction | 01:56 |
| th1a | I think that must have happened. | 01:56 |
| huats | I just had a look at the pages you ask me to look at... | 01:56 |
| huats | I've been very careful, and I didn't have the same forms | 01:57 |
| huats | this time it is easier to translate with the original message always next to me... | 01:57 |
| th1a | That's the way it is supposed to work. | 01:58 |
| huats | by the way I haven't save it yet, because I want your opinion : in the docment about the traduction and the need of volunteer | 01:58 |
| huats | you use many times : "I" like in "I'll be happy" | 01:59 |
| huats | for the moment I have translated it to We | 01:59 |
| th1a | Oh. Yes, "we" is better. | 01:59 |
| huats | ok | 01:59 |
| th1a | When I sit here alone it starts to feel like just me. | 02:00 |
| th1a | :-) | 02:00 |
| huats | may be the translation is not a word for word but the global sense is here... | 02:00 |
| huats | I can easily understand | 02:00 |
| th1a | I'm sure that is fine. | 02:00 |
| huats | where are you by the way ? | 02:00 |
| th1a | Providence, Rhode Island. A small state south of Boston, in New England. | 02:00 |
| huats | ok | 02:01 |
| huats | I know providence (juste by name) | 02:01 |
| huats | there is a big university right ? | 02:01 |
| th1a | Brown University. | 02:01 |
| huats | yep | 02:01 |
| th1a | Not so big, but in the "Ivy League." | 02:01 |
| th1a | I got my masters in teaching there. | 02:01 |
| huats | ok | 02:01 |
| th1a | Where are you? | 02:02 |
| th1a | I'm going to be in Paris next month. | 02:02 |
| huats | in fact I use to "know" some us college cause I really enjoy basket ball... | 02:02 |
| huats | really ? when ? | 02:02 |
| th1a | Ah. Basketball. Providence College is here too. | 02:02 |
| huats | I am not in Paris, I am in Toulouse in the south of France | 02:02 |
| th1a | Not as well known, except for basketball. | 02:02 |
| huats | but my girl friends lives in Paris . And I spend allmost all my WE in Paris | 02:03 |
| th1a | I'll be there on the 21st of February. There is a division of UNESCO that trains educators in the developing world, and they're interested in SchoolTool. | 02:03 |
| huats | ok | 02:04 |
| huats | you're staying there betwwen when and when ? | 02:04 |
| huats | cause it is a tuesday, and I'll be in Toulouse at work... something like 1 h by plane | 02:05 |
| th1a | Well, I'm still planning the trip. Looks like I'll be in England the 20th, Paris the 21, Belgium the 22nd, Holland the 23rd, something like that. | 02:05 |
| huats | quite a busy trip | 02:06 |
| huats | not a lot of time to visit | 02:06 |
| th1a | I'm trying to visit a lot of people quickly. | 02:06 |
| huats | I understand | 02:06 |
| th1a | If I have to fly to Europe anyhow, might as well take advantage. | 02:06 |
| huats | why don't you stay a litle longer there is the fosdem in belgium just a couple of days after that | 02:07 |
| th1a | Hm. I didn't know that. | 02:08 |
| huats | 25&26 feb | 02:08 |
| huats | www.fosdem.org | 02:08 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 02:08 |
| huats | it is really really one of the place to go for Open Source Development | 02:09 |
| huats | unfortunatelly I won't be able to be there... | 02:09 |
| huats | next year :-( | 02:09 |
| th1a | Generally speaking, I'm trying not to travel for a while... need to concentrate on development, but maybe I could stick around for FOSDEM. | 02:10 |
| huats | ok | 02:10 |
| th1a | On the other hand, my wife will be with me (she'll be on break from school) and she'll need to get back. | 02:11 |
| huats | oh ok | 02:11 |
| th1a | So it probably won't be possible. | 02:11 |
| th1a | I'll check out what is going on. | 02:11 |
| huats | that is why I am not going to fosdem.... | 02:11 |
| th1a | A year from now I'll probably be traveling like a maniac. | 02:12 |
| huats | I have translated http://www.schooltool.org/weblog/archive/2006/01/19/translating-schooltoolorg | 02:12 |
| huats | I hope I haven't broke everything this time... | 02:12 |
| th1a | It seems right to me. | 02:14 |
| huats | have you been able to fix my previous mess ? | 02:14 |
| huats | if you want to delete my translation you can, I have save it on my computer | 02:14 |
| th1a | Working on it. | 02:14 |
| huats | ok | 02:14 |
| th1a | I used Google to translate it back into English so I could remember what it said. | 02:15 |
| huats | oh | 02:15 |
| huats | if you want I could have help you on the translation back | 02:15 |
| th1a | I think I can get it. | 02:16 |
| huats | ok | 02:16 |
| th1a | Well, it isn't exactly the same, but close enough. | 02:24 |
| huats | ok | 02:25 |
| huats | I am about to make the translation again | 02:25 |
| huats | I'll be very careful... | 02:26 |
| th1a | Here, try this. | 02:26 |
| th1a | http://www.schooltool.org/Members/th1a/test | 02:26 |
| th1a | Try translating that. | 02:26 |
| huats | ok | 02:26 |
| huats | just 1 sec | 02:27 |
| th1a | It's a difficult text. | 02:27 |
| huats | done | 02:28 |
| huats | it was difficult indeed | 02:28 |
| th1a | That seems to have worked as expected. | 02:29 |
| huats | again I am really sorry for the disturbance | 02:29 |
| huats | for the mess | 02:29 |
| th1a | No problem. I'd like to know precisely what happened, though, so I know what to tell people not to do. | 02:31 |
| huats | well I think I've been a godd case of study | 02:33 |
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| huats | th1a, I thin it would be great that I translate the "new version of the about file " don't you think ? | 02:59 |
| th1a | I guess you should. | 02:59 |
| huats | ok | 02:59 |
| th1a | Gets a bit circular. | 02:59 |
| huats | Ok I did | 03:09 |
| huats | it should be fine this time | 03:09 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 03:09 |
| huats | that was no big deal | 03:10 |
| huats | do you know that the livre bookmark is not working ? | 03:10 |
| th1a | Bookmark? | 03:10 |
| huats | sorry live bookmark inside Firefox | 03:11 |
| huats | the rss feed | 03:11 |
| huats | using the little icon in the address bar | 03:11 |
| th1a | Oh... right. | 03:11 |
| th1a | Yes. I'll take a look at that. | 03:11 |
| huats | by the way if I can help a little more than translating do not hesitate to tell me | 03:12 |
| huats | I mean not tonight (i have to be at work in less than 7h) | 03:12 |
| huats | but later... | 03:12 |
| huats | th1a, ok I go to bed | 03:16 |
| huats | talk to you soon | 03:16 |
| huats | by | 03:16 |
| huats | bye | 03:16 |
| th1a | bye huats. | 03:16 |
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