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| povbot` | /svn/commits: Nicked the requirement unit tests and tried them as integration tests (mostly). They work except for the last one (commented out). I also moved the adapter declarations all into requirement. | 08:41 |
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| ignas | srichter, ayt ? | 11:52 |
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| erchache | hi | 12:19 |
| erchache | anybody here? | 12:19 |
| erchache | mgedmin | 12:19 |
| erchache | th1a | 12:19 |
| * mgedmin waves | 12:20 | |
| erchache | :-S | 12:20 |
| erchache | mgedmin: are you busy? or ar a autoreply message? | 12:21 |
| mgedmin | I'm kind of in the middle of something | 12:21 |
| erchache | ooops | 12:22 |
| erchache | i have some problems with sections on schooltool and i want to show all calendar for unauthenticated user on schoolbell and schooltool :-S | 12:22 |
| erchache | write a mail better? | 12:23 |
| povbot` | /svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 5450: | 12:23 |
| povbot` | /svn/commits: Extracted a viewlet manager for the Calendar event information box. | 12:23 |
| erchache | bye | 12:25 |
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| mgedmin | is "someone was tardy to Math" valid English? | 14:58 |
| mgedmin | or should it rather be "someone was late to Math"? | 14:58 |
| mgedmin | Aiste says it should be "late for Math", not "late to Math" | 15:06 |
| * mgedmin thinks nobody else is here | 15:16 | |
| mgedmin | alga: the task you said might be finished is only half finished -- in my interpretation implementing IDayAttendance is part of that task | 15:16 |
| tiredbones | mgedmin, I read in the abstract for buildbot that the user with a build slave get notified when an update took place.Do we have this facility? | 15:22 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5451: | 15:29 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Reordered imports. | 15:29 |
| mgedmin | tiredbones, yes | 15:31 |
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| ignas | th1a, ayt ? | 15:43 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5452: | 15:47 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: English fix. | 15:47 |
| tiredbones | mgedmin, is it possible to be notified without having a slave? Could I be notified? | 15:49 |
| mgedmin | tiredbones, you could lurk on this channel and watch for announcements from povbot ;) | 15:50 |
| mgedmin | tiredbones, or subscribe to checkins@schooltool.org | 15:50 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5453: | 15:50 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Change API of makeTardy and late_arrival to contain full datetime, not just time. | 15:50 |
| * mgedmin thinks that maybe getSchoolToolApplication should be a utility | 15:53 | |
| mgedmin | that way unit tests can stub it more easily, instead of having to use setSite() etc. | 15:53 |
| mgedmin | hmm, buildbot's master stopped noticing commits after I rebooted the server today | 15:54 |
| mgedmin | strange | 15:54 |
| srichter | getSchoolToolApplication as a utiulity would be indeed a good thing | 15:54 |
| srichter | +1 | 15:54 |
| tiredbones | mgedmin, I have subscribe to checkins@schooltool.org, but I've have not seen any commits there. I just lurk on the channel. Thanks | 15:57 |
| mgedmin | tiredbones, that's curious -- I get all the commit messages from checkins@schooltool.org | 15:59 |
| mgedmin | do you use spamcop? | 15:59 |
| mgedmin | the server that hosts all schooltool's mailing lists was blocked recently | 15:59 |
| mgedmin | but it should have been unblocked by now | 15:59 |
| mgedmin | (there was a bug in a Zope 2 form on another vhost that let spammers use it as an open proxy. cursed DTML.) | 16:00 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5454: | 16:24 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Extracted calendar display preferences from IPersonPreferences and IApplicationPreferences into ICalendarDisplayPreferences. | 16:24 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Juggled some imports so that schooltool.app.interfaces depends on schooltool.person.interfaces, and not vice versa. My gut feeling is that st.app should depend on st.person, but not vice versa. Current situation is that st.app and st.person have a circular dependency. | 16:24 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5455: | 16:26 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Typo. | 16:26 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5456: | 16:27 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Demystification. | 16:27 |
| tiredbones | mgedmin, Well when I went to the page "checkins@schooltool.org" it showed the page for schooltool, ahd I'm subscribe to that. | 16:40 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5457: | 16:42 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Converted schooltool.attendance.interfaces to use zope.schema. | 16:42 |
| mgedmin | tiredbones, ? | 16:42 |
| mgedmin | http://lists.schooltool.org/mailman/listinfo/checkins | 16:43 |
| tiredbones | mgedmin, thanks for the pointer, that's the one I can use. I'll subscribe now. | 16:45 |
| th1a | ignas: What's up? | 17:38 |
| ignas | what is your opinion about multiple ttschemas, overlapping terms ? | 17:39 |
| th1a | In what sense? | 17:39 |
| ignas | in any | 17:40 |
| th1a | They must be allowed, although I imagine that we'll find some unexpected consequences at various points. | 17:40 |
| th1a | I don't think they are an issue with any of our partners, so it isn't crucial. I should ask them. | 17:41 |
| th1a | I guess I'm more concerned that our underlying model should handle them than anything. | 17:42 |
| ignas | because well - at the moment we do not really support overlapping terms | 17:42 |
| ignas | but they are not disabled | 17:42 |
| th1a | What happens? | 17:42 |
| ignas | weird things imght happen | 17:42 |
| ignas | we are not handling them | 17:42 |
| ignas | we are assuming that terms do not overlap | 17:43 |
| ignas | there are functions getTermForDate ... | 17:43 |
| th1a | Well, let's consider those minor bugs. If you note them when you see them it would be helpful. | 17:44 |
| ignas | ok | 17:45 |
| ignas | what about new code ? | 17:45 |
| ignas | should it be prepared to handle such things as overlaping terms ? | 17:45 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:45 |
| ignas | or just assume there aren't any | 17:45 |
| th1a | We've put a lot of time into those timetable models. | 17:46 |
| th1a | If we don't make sure they actually work as designed we've wasted a lot of time on those timetable models. | 17:47 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * alga committed revision 5458: | 17:47 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Traversal to the realtime attendance view -- work in progress. | 17:47 |
| ignas | i see :/ | 17:51 |
| ignas | sometimes it feels like having interfering goals tohugh | 17:51 |
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| erchache | hi | 18:40 |
| erchache | th1a | 18:40 |
| erchache | jinty | 18:40 |
| erchache | mgedmiin | 18:40 |
| erchache | mgedmin | 18:40 |
| erchache | anybody here? | 18:40 |
| th1a | Hi erchache. | 18:40 |
| erchache | i put to work to my clerck...he introduce all classrooms, terms and section of health faculty | 18:41 |
| erchache | we have some problems with sections | 18:41 |
| erchache | i want to say before write mail to list or add an issue, ok? | 18:42 |
| erchache | th1a | 18:42 |
| th1a | Yes, what's the problem? | 18:43 |
| erchache | i use schooltool for computer science classrooms, and have problems to make pdf of month timetables and i dont know how unauthenticated users can see all my timetables | 18:43 |
| erchache | th1a: when i create a section and after make his schedule, i cant modify or delete it....why? | 18:44 |
| erchache | schedule cant be deleted or modified | 18:44 |
| th1a | I don't know. I'll have a look. | 18:45 |
| erchache | other question is....when i make a schedule for a term and after make other different term.....schedule form arent update with database information, always appears same days, timetables and terms | 18:45 |
| th1a | I'm not sure what you mean. What do you expect to happen? | 18:46 |
| erchache | other question....when i search for a section, must be exactly definition | 18:46 |
| erchache | well....i start again | 18:46 |
| erchache | you get a section no? | 18:46 |
| erchache | and you want to asign a schedule for get a timetable for it no? | 18:47 |
| th1a | Yes. | 18:47 |
| erchache | you go to schedule, get a term, a timetable and get days for this no? | 18:47 |
| erchache | all is correct at this point | 18:47 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:47 |
| erchache | but when you try to modify or delete this information, i can't....doesnt appear any delete button or similar | 18:48 |
| erchache | arent finished this module program? i dont make correct steps? | 18:48 |
| th1a | I didn't understand the second question. | 18:48 |
| erchache | when i create a schedule for a section after i cant delete or modify it....why? | 18:50 |
| th1a | I'm taking a look at it. | 18:50 |
| erchache | ok | 18:51 |
| th1a | On SchoolTool 0.11.2 I can change a section's schedule. | 18:52 |
| th1a | I'm just going to the section, clicking "Schedule" and getting the same form I originally got. | 18:53 |
| erchache | on 0.11.3 my version i cant | 18:54 |
| th1a | What happens? | 18:54 |
| th1a | Oh, you want to change the term or timetable? | 18:54 |
| th1a | I see. | 18:55 |
| erchache | yepa... | 18:55 |
| th1a | Yes, you can't do that yet. | 18:55 |
| erchache | but this form doesnt modify older information | 18:55 |
| erchache | how? | 18:55 |
| erchache | i push update | 18:55 |
| erchache | and doesnt show on calendars | 18:55 |
| erchache | and if i add information are added correctly but i cant delete or modify it | 18:56 |
| th1a | If you modify the meeting times half way through the semester, should it change all the dates or just the ones in the future? | 18:59 |
| erchache | only if add.....modify are disable | 19:03 |
| erchache | i can add all i want but doesnt modify to delete | 19:03 |
| erchache | th1a: are you here? :-S | 19:08 |
| th1a | Yes. | 19:08 |
| th1a | You are right that you can't modify those things. | 19:09 |
| erchache | why? :-S | 19:09 |
| erchache | misterious bug? | 19:09 |
| erchache | make a issue about that? | 19:09 |
| th1a | It is unclear what it would mean to change the term of a section, especially after the section started. | 19:09 |
| erchache | other question is on index sections, doesnt show total number of items | 19:09 |
| th1a | After the term started. | 19:10 |
| erchache | but i should can modify it no? | 19:10 |
| erchache | or delete completly no? | 19:10 |
| th1a | All you can do at this point is delete the old one and make a new one for the new term. | 19:10 |
| erchache | i have 18 classrooms, 53 courses and 159 sections..... | 19:11 |
| erchache | how? | 19:11 |
| th1a | Do the same groups meet next term? | 19:11 |
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| erchache | i cant understand your question :-S | 19:12 |
| th1a | How did you create them in the first place? | 19:12 |
| erchache | sections? | 19:12 |
| th1a | Yes. | 19:12 |
| erchache | like you put on little howto | 19:13 |
| th1a | By hand? | 19:13 |
| erchache | yepa | 19:13 |
| th1a | Didn't import them? | 19:13 |
| erchache | nope | 19:13 |
| erchache | hehehehe | 19:13 |
| erchache | other question is csv or ldap | 19:13 |
| th1a | Why do you need to change the term? | 19:14 |
| erchache | no no i dont need to modify term....i want to modify schedule's section | 19:14 |
| th1a | How do you need to modify it? | 19:15 |
| erchache | because i introduce wrong information | 19:16 |
| erchache | th1a | 19:18 |
| th1a | Precisely which information do you need to modify? | 19:19 |
| erchache | schedule of a section | 19:19 |
| th1a | It's meeting time? | 19:19 |
| erchache | yepa | 19:19 |
| th1a | The little checkboxes? | 19:19 |
| erchache | yepa | 19:19 |
| erchache | and term and timetable checkboxes of schedule too | 19:20 |
| th1a | And you're saying that when you check them, it only changes meeting times in the future, not in the past? | 19:20 |
| erchache | yepa | 19:20 |
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| th1a | I think that's the correct behaviour. | 19:20 |
| th1a | Who cares about the past anyhow? | 19:20 |
| th1a | I mean, I suppose ideally we'd have a checkbox that let you change things in the past as well. | 19:21 |
| erchache | a second...telephone :-S | 19:21 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5459: | 19:29 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Removed a LOT of unnecessary imports. | 19:29 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: All tests pass. Well, except for the one that fails because Albert forgot to svn add a new file in his sandbox. | 19:29 |
| erchache | th1a: im here again...sorry | 19:31 |
| th1a | Why do you need to change past date? | 19:31 |
| erchache | th1a: ok....supose you say truth....where i can modify these schedule? | 19:31 |
| erchache | for example, clerk fails and wants to delete this wrong information | 19:32 |
| th1a | I think we've returned to where we were a half hour ago. | 19:32 |
| erchache | or a teacher wants to made a last minute modification | 19:32 |
| th1a | On the meeting times of a section? | 19:32 |
| erchache | ok | 19:32 |
| erchache | ok.. | 19:32 |
| erchache | i put information of schedule on a section | 19:32 |
| erchache | and when i see on calendar....i confirm are wrong....wants to delete or modify | 19:33 |
| erchache | how i can do it? | 19:33 |
| erchache | th1a | 19:33 |
| th1a | If you go back to section > schedule, you should be able to change the meeting times but not the timetable schema or term. | 19:34 |
| erchache | nope | 19:34 |
| th1a | What happens? | 19:34 |
| erchache | i dont want to change timetable or term...i want to change day and hour checkboxes | 19:35 |
| erchache | term and timetable puts day and hour to select for schedule no? | 19:35 |
| erchache | if i select wrongs day/hour checkboxes how i can modify it? | 19:35 |
| erchache | deselecting? nope....doesnt run | 19:36 |
| th1a | What do you mean, doesn't run? | 19:36 |
| th1a | Works for me. | 19:37 |
| erchache | if i put a schedule for one term to days, monday and friday to 10:00 am to 11:00 am | 19:37 |
| erchache | and wants to change to 9:00 am to 11:00 am | 19:37 |
| erchache | eee excuse me excuse me | 19:38 |
| erchache | to 8:00 am to 9:00 am | 19:38 |
| erchache | programs show 8:00 to 9:00 am and 10:00 to 11:00 am....show boths because add information without delete previous | 19:38 |
| erchache | i supose schedule form change all entire information of a section for a timetable and term selected no? | 19:39 |
| th1a | In the future? | 19:39 |
| erchache | nope...in the future no...in the present!....arrrggghhhh | 19:39 |
| erchache | very dificult to explain! | 19:39 |
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| erchache | changing the chip | 19:41 |
| erchache | imagine i make a schedule for a section step by step like your little howto no? | 19:41 |
| erchache | and after this....i see and wants to delete it | 19:41 |
| erchache | how i can do it? | 19:41 |
| erchache | th1a | 19:41 |
| erchache | doesnt have delete button and changing checkboxes of days and hour to select doesnt run | 19:42 |
| erchache | alguien habla español? | 19:42 |
| th1a | At this point, you'd have to delete the section. | 19:42 |
| erchache | entirely? | 19:43 |
| erchache | why? | 19:43 |
| th1a | Although changing the meeting times seems to work for me. At least in the present and future. | 19:43 |
| erchache | me not :-( | 19:43 |
| erchache | well...other little questions....i will try to write a readable issue of this | 19:43 |
| th1a | We just didn't implement anything to remove schedules. | 19:44 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5460: | 19:44 |
| erchache | must be done.... | 19:44 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Some more unused import cleanups. | 19:44 |
| th1a | Probably you just need a script to jump into the database and do it directly. | 19:44 |
| erchache | well... | 19:44 |
| erchache | other bug.... | 19:44 |
| erchache | when i see index of sections doesnt appear all number of sections like courses, persons, term etc | 19:45 |
| erchache | and when try to find a specific section introducing his name, must be exactly.....why? i want to search for a part of term for example......search for all math sections | 19:46 |
| erchache | i have math I, math II, math III | 19:46 |
| erchache | i want to see all sections starts for 'math' and doesnt run | 19:46 |
| erchache | th1a | 19:46 |
| erchache | put a issue about that too? | 19:47 |
| th1a | Sure. | 19:48 |
| th1a | Our searching is probably overly simplistic right now. | 19:48 |
| erchache | yea i think you use AND instead OR ;-) or similar | 19:49 |
| th1a | That might be part of the problem. | 19:49 |
| erchache | ;-P | 19:49 |
| erchache | and can i make a subterm? | 19:49 |
| erchache | a child term for a previous term? | 19:49 |
| th1a | No. | 19:50 |
| erchache | uhmm | 19:51 |
| erchache | this is because i have courses that change of classroom on same term | 19:51 |
| th1a | That's not good. | 19:52 |
| erchache | well....are distribution problem... | 19:54 |
| erchache | but i think more schools have same problem no? | 19:54 |
| th1a | I don't know. | 19:55 |
| th1a | Probably. | 19:55 |
| erchache | hehehe i think this is "real" problem.... | 19:55 |
| erchache | i see program like a final user with programming and design knowledge | 19:55 |
| th1a | This is the kind of thing where we hope people will start "scratching their own itch." | 19:56 |
| erchache | and see two side of program | 19:56 |
| erchache | jajajajajaja | 19:56 |
| erchache | yepa | 19:56 |
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| erchache | bye | 20:00 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5461: | 21:24 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Removed some commented out debugging hook. | 21:24 |
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| mgedmin | yes! buildbot works now | 21:30 |
| mgedmin | and all I had to do was sacrifice a goat and two chickens | 21:30 |
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| Get | Hi! | 21:40 |
| Get | How do I add a user? | 21:40 |
| mgedmin | Get, you log in as a manager (username: manager, default password: schooltool) | 21:56 |
| Get | thx mgedmin | 21:57 |
| mgedmin | click on 'Persons' in the navigation box on the left | 21:57 |
| mgedmin | then click on 'New Person' in the actions box below the navigation box | 21:57 |
| Get | :) | 21:57 |
| mgedmin | each person is a user | 21:57 |
| Get | ok | 21:57 |
| Get | thx a lot | 21:58 |
| mgedmin | (and there really should be an 'Add' button next to the 'Delete' button in the listing on the right: http://issues.schooltool.org/issue235) | 21:58 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: Returning my unit testing debt. | 22:19 |
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