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srichter | tvon: I am in Boston | 01:27 |
tvon | ah | 01:28 |
tvon | way to read the logs :) | 01:28 |
srichter | bskahan: I am surprised they did that; ST is not lobbying enough for its great technologies. I think we really should write a proposal for the inclusion of ST's relationship package, if we get Mark's ok. | 01:30 |
tvon | ah, tufts | 01:30 |
srichter | yep | 01:30 |
bskahan | srichter: true, maybe tom can lobby for that while he's in London | 01:32 |
srichter | right | 01:33 |
tvon | It's been suggested in here a few times | 01:33 |
* bskahan nods | 01:34 | |
bskahan | I don't recall the conclusion | 01:34 |
bskahan | iirc, SteveA suggested it didn't belong in Zope | 01:34 |
srichter | right, Tom wanted to talk to Mark about it | 01:34 |
bskahan | but I could be smoking crack | 01:34 |
bskahan | dinner time | 01:35 |
srichter | well, the problem is that we need to lobby much better for ST technologies | 01:35 |
bskahan | ttyl | 01:35 |
srichter | bye | 01:35 |
bskahan | srichter: +1 | 01:35 |
bskahan | bbiab | 01:35 |
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tvon | bskahan: yeah, I think that was it | 01:35 |
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povbot | /svn/commits: don't show the number of items in prev/next if there is no prev/next | 07:17 |
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povbot | /svn/commits: Make the numbers in next/previous live. If there are only 7 items on the last page of a batch, say 'next 7' instead of 'next ${batch size}' | 07:38 |
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povbot | /svn/commits: make the current batch more apparent and shrink things down a little bit. | 09:43 |
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povbot | /svn/commits: * tvon committed revision 4701: | 13:01 |
povbot | /svn/commits: Keep the batch from wrapping. | 13:01 |
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povbot | /svn/commits: removing batch-extra-navigation css (the show more/less/all links) | 13:03 |
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povbot | /svn/commits: * bskahan committed revision 4703: | 15:09 |
povbot | /svn/commits: added links to section schedules in the section index. Relaxed security on ITimetableDict to allow it. | 15:09 |
povbot | /svn/commits: RFC: is there any reason for ITimetableDicts to [not inherit|inherit] ILocation? | 15:09 |
* mgedmin wonders if people know that today is a public holiday in Lithuania | 15:12 | |
srichter | probably not :-) | 15:12 |
bskahan | mgedmin: I didn't, happy holiday ;) | 15:12 |
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th1a | bskahan: ayt? | 15:17 |
bskahan | th1a: hi | 15:17 |
th1a | Did you do the story about section calendars showing up for students? | 15:18 |
bskahan | yes, why? | 15:18 |
th1a | I tried it in the latest rc and it didn't seem to work. | 15:18 |
bskahan | let me look | 15:19 |
bskahan | th1a: give the students view permission on the calendar | 15:24 |
th1a | Urk. | 15:25 |
th1a | That's not very useful if it doesn't happen automatically. | 15:25 |
bskahan | th1a: I'll add a schoolbell.viewCalendar permssion to new group members | 15:27 |
bskahan | or just to members of sections? | 15:28 |
th1a | Thanks. Flag that for back-porting too please. | 15:28 |
bskahan | (one happens in schoolbell, the other in schooltool) | 15:28 |
th1a | Hm... So we don't give view calendar to group members by default? | 15:28 |
bskahan | no | 15:29 |
th1a | I guess they get it because they're part of the group. | 15:29 |
th1a | But a section isn't a group. | 15:29 |
th1a | At least on the ACL view. | 15:29 |
th1a | ? | 15:30 |
bskahan | sorry, trying the grant real quick | 15:32 |
bskahan | Sections implement IGroup | 15:32 |
bskahan | so for most intents the will show up as a group | 15:33 |
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povbot | /svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4704: | 16:22 |
povbot | /svn/commits: Factored out Group code into a separate package. | 16:22 |
bskahan | I think it will be a quite meeting | 16:30 |
srichter | I am here :-) | 16:30 |
bskahan | quiet even | 16:30 |
srichter | I am still working on the refactorings. :-) <report done> | 16:30 |
bskahan | what's the timeframe for merging your branch back into trunk? | 16:34 |
mgedmin | I'd like to start merging after the release on Tuesday | 16:34 |
* bskahan nods | 16:36 | |
srichter | the faster the better | 16:37 |
srichter | mgedmin: I am going to sync schooltool only once for the new locations of person, group and resource in schoolbell | 16:38 |
mgedmin | srichter, I'm not sure what that means | 16:39 |
srichter | Well, I am working on Schoolbell only now (on the branch) | 16:39 |
srichter | without updating SchoolTool to the new locations | 16:39 |
mgedmin | ah | 16:43 |
jelkner | is the meeting over? | 16:48 |
srichter | yeah, I think it never started :-) | 16:50 |
bskahan | jelkner: the agenda is very flexible today ;) | 16:50 |
srichter | mgedmin: btw, what is the holiday today? | 16:50 |
bskahan | tom h. is in london and POV is mostly on holiday | 16:51 |
ignas | it's called "žolinės" | 16:51 |
jelkner | so it will be same time next monday, yes? | 16:52 |
jelkner | is schooltool 1.0 still slated for a september release? | 16:53 |
bskahan | jelkner: schooltool calendar 0.11 is scheduled to release tomorrow | 16:53 |
bskahan | along with schoolbell 1.2 | 16:53 |
bskahan | that will be the stable series for the 2005-2006 schoolyear | 16:53 |
jelkner | so the web site should be updated to reflect that. | 16:54 |
* bskahan nods | 16:54 | |
mgedmin | srichter, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_15#Holidays_and_observances | 16:54 |
jelkner | bskahan: you're located in baltimore, aren't you? | 16:56 |
bskahan | jelkner: have you tried out the 0.11 release candidates? | 16:56 |
bskahan | jelkner: I was until very recently ;) | 16:56 |
bskahan | now I'm in NY | 16:56 |
jelkner | oh, any of you still in baltimore? | 16:56 |
bskahan | tvon is in Baltimore | 16:57 |
jelkner | i haven't tried out the latest release yet | 16:57 |
jelkner | i figured it would come with breezy, and i'm waiting to try that | 16:57 |
jelkner | or edubuntu, actually | 16:58 |
bskahan | that's actually a good question | 16:58 |
bskahan | breezy still has 0.10 | 16:59 |
jelkner | and it is frozen | 16:59 |
jelkner | does that mean 0.10 is all it will have? | 17:00 |
bskahan | I hope not, | 17:00 |
jelkner | me too | 17:00 |
jelkner | in terms of promoting schooltool, i was counting on edubuntu as the delivery vehicle | 17:01 |
jelkner | "here, take this cd and try it out..." | 17:01 |
jelkner | well, if the meeting is over, i'm heading back to bed... | 17:03 |
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srichter | wow, the resource's browser views are almost not unit tested at all | 17:06 |
* ignas needs a network card an a book "setting up a nat for zombies and ghouls" | 17:09 | |
mgedmin | lessons learned: if you have a trivial subclass that just overrides a string attribute, white a unit test nevertheless -- otherwise other people will add methods in that class and will NOT write unit tests for them | 17:11 |
srichter | :-) | 17:11 |
srichter | that is true though, I have observed myself doign that too | 17:12 |
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povbot | /svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4705: | 17:49 |
povbot | /svn/commits: Refactored resource code into a separate package. | 17:49 |
bskahan | if I extract a method do I need to isolate the doctests as well? | 17:50 |
ignas | yes | 17:52 |
bskahan | ignas: thanks | 17:52 |
povbot | /svn/commits: * bskahan committed revision 4706: | 18:15 |
povbot | /svn/commits: modified the section membership subscriber to grant/unset permissions on 'view' and 'viewCalendar'. | 18:15 |
povbot | /svn/commits: This should be backported to the 0.11 branch. | 18:15 |
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pcardune | eldafar: ayt? | 19:35 |
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srichter | mgedmin: yipee, I got the pluggable traverser working | 21:19 |
mgedmin | yay! | 21:21 |
mgedmin | how does it work? | 21:21 |
srichter | using subscribers | 21:21 |
srichter | you basically register a pluggable traverser for the object of interest | 21:21 |
srichter | then you register traverser plugins (subscribers) | 21:22 |
srichter | the nice thing is you simply register a plugin for the ICalendarOwner | 21:22 |
srichter | and every object implementing ICalendarOwner and using the pluggable traverser then has this plugin automatically | 21:26 |
srichter | I think it is definitely the best approach to any software that is designed as a development platform | 21:26 |
srichter | btw, I have not written directives yet; ST seems hesitant to develop their own directives | 21:27 |
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bskahan | hey jinty | 21:31 |
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jinty | hoi bskahan | 21:49 |
* jinty was just downloading the ridiculous amount of e-mail he got over the weekend | 21:50 | |
bskahan | jinty: Hey Brian | 21:55 |
bskahan | I'm swimming in old email at this point | 21:55 |
bskahan | ;) | 21:55 |
bskahan | do you know what we need to do to get our version bumped in Breezy? | 21:56 |
jinty | I saw the mail, but we havn't got a 0.11 yet... | 21:57 |
* bskahan nods | 21:57 | |
jinty | but otherwise asking on #ubuntu-motu or ubuntu-devel is normally enough | 21:57 |
bskahan | cool | 21:57 |
jinty | if the new packaging stuff works out, I plan to ask for inclusion in breezy main. But that's quite a big if. | 21:58 |
bskahan | ah | 21:59 |
bskahan | heh | 21:59 |
bskahan | ok, elkner just made me nervous when he said breezy was frozen | 21:59 |
* jinty notes that Oliver Gravert is a MOTU (perhaps more) and was on the CC of mark's reply | 21:59 | |
bskahan | I think he may be working on Edubuntu | 22:00 |
jinty | frozen is a relative term when talking about ubuntu freezes | 22:00 |
bskahan | heh | 22:00 |
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