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| samyl | Hi | 11:47 |
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| samyl | I'm a newbie on schootoll | 11:48 |
| samyl | schooltool | 11:48 |
| samyl | I've installed a sever on my local machine | 11:48 |
| samyl | I try to use the server schooltool with a graphic client | 11:49 |
| samyl | I've a little problem when I try to modify some parameters as roll_call | 11:51 |
| samyl | and when I do it | 11:51 |
| samyl | i've the message: Unuauthorized | 11:51 |
| samyl | I'm connected in local with username and password empty | 11:52 |
| samyl | I saw on the web site schooltool but I didn't try a solution to resolv my problem | 11:53 |
| samyl | is anyone can help me | 11:53 |
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| samyl | I'm a newbie on schootool | 12:54 |
| samyl | I've installed a sever on my local machine, I try to use the server schooltool with a graphic client, I've a little problem when I try to modify some parameters as roll_call and when I do it, i've the message: Unuauthorized, I'm connected in local with username and password empty, I saw on the web site schooltool but I didn't try a solution to resolv my problem | 12:57 |
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| samyl | hi | 13:00 |
| samyl | I'm a newbie on schooltool, I've installed a sever on my local machine. | 13:04 |
| samyl | I try to use the server schooltool with a graphic client and I've a little problem when I try to modify some parameters as roll_call and when I do it i've the message: Unuauthorized. | 13:04 |
| samyl | I'm connected in local with username and password empty and I saw on the web site schooltool but I didn't try a solution to resolv my problem, so is anyone can help me | 13:04 |
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| samyl | Hi, I'm a newbie on schooltool, I've installed a sever on my local machine. I try to use the server schooltool with a graphic client and I've a little problem when I try to modify some parameters as roll_call and when I do it i've the message: Unuauthorized. I'm connected in local with username and password empty and I saw on the web site schooltool but I didn't try a solution to resolv my problem, so is anyone can help me | 13:21 |
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| samyl | Hi | 16:38 |
| samyl | Is there anybody | 16:38 |
| samyl | I'd like to ask something about schooltool | 16:39 |
| FarcePest | login as manager with password schooltool | 16:39 |
| bskahan | hello | 16:40 |
| samyl | thanks, I found on the web site of schooltool | 16:43 |
| bskahan | samyl: it sounds like your using an old release | 16:43 |
| samyl | I've some very basic question | 16:43 |
| bskahan | go ahead | 16:44 |
| bskahan | the only released package that should really be used now is schoolbell 1.0 | 16:44 |
| bskahan | schooltool 0.10 will be out at the end of may | 16:44 |
| samyl | I've begining this morning with schooltool milestone 6 | 16:45 |
| bskahan | yeah, that's very old | 16:45 |
| samyl | but I believe that wasn't a good way | 16:45 |
| bskahan | ;) | 16:45 |
| bskahan | grab schoolbell 1.0 | 16:46 |
| samyl | Now, I've download on the web site schooltool/schoolbell 0.9 | 16:46 |
| bskahan | between 0.9 and 1.0/0.10 we moved from a homebrewed twisted base platform to a Zope3 platform | 16:47 |
| bskahan | the thick client is temporarily deprecated and we're focusing on the web client for now. | 16:48 |
| bskahan | the web services interface will open up in 1.1 again and the client could be updated to work again | 16:48 |
| samyl | with the "new version" 0.9 or 1.0, can i use the wx python client that i used this mornin with schooltool milestone | 16:48 |
| bskahan | not really | 16:48 |
| bskahan | definitely not with 1.0 | 16:49 |
| samyl | oh really, i must use only my web browser? | 16:49 |
| bskahan | right | 16:49 |
| bskahan | the web services interface (REST) wasn't finished porting in time for 1.0 | 16:50 |
| bskahan | its pretty much ready now for 1.1 | 16:50 |
| samyl | what are the main difference between the version that i used this morning and the new version in a few words? | 16:50 |
| samyl | i'm sorry for my newbie's questions but it's new for me | 16:51 |
| bskahan | schoolbell is the generic calendar server, schooltool is specific to schools. 1.0 is a very nice calendar server without things like attendence, etc | 16:52 |
| bskahan | schooltool 1.1 (out in may) will be a school specific calendar server with classes and timetables | 16:52 |
| bskahan | oops | 16:52 |
| bskahan | schooltool calendar 1.0 | 16:52 |
| bskahan | or some version like that | 16:52 |
| bskahan | I have to run for about 15 minutes | 16:53 |
| bskahan | I'll be back shortly | 16:53 |
| samyl | ok, no problem, thank you | 16:53 |
| bskahan | hey samyl | 17:04 |
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| samyl | hi | 17:08 |
| samyl | so | 17:08 |
| th1a | samyl: hi | 17:08 |
| samyl | In fact, I'm interested by schooltool | 17:09 |
| samyl | I'm interested by the aspect "administration" of school | 17:10 |
| th1a | samyl: I'm catching up on the logs from earlier today... | 17:10 |
| samyl | As i saw this morning with the version of schooltool milestone | 17:11 |
| th1a | samyl: Yes. | 17:11 |
| th1a | We decided in the short term to focus on just doing calendaring, | 17:12 |
| samyl | ok, you don't want to continue with the same function as milestone? | 17:13 |
| bskahan | everything thatwas in the milestones (except maybe the wxPython client in a recognizable form) will be in schooltool at some point, I think | 17:13 |
| th1a | We just decided that rather than try to do everything at once, we should start with a narrower focus. | 17:14 |
| th1a | After the next month or so, we'll be focusing on general school administration again. | 17:14 |
| * bskahan curses his dieing spacebar | 17:14 | |
| ignas | s/dieing/dying | 17:15 |
| bskahan | how do you know I didn't mean it turns my thumb green :-P | 17:15 |
| th1a | bskahan's space bar is out in the back alley shooting craps. | 17:15 |
| samyl | sorry? | 17:16 |
| th1a | samyl: Just making an attempt at a pun. | 17:17 |
| samyl | ok | 17:17 |
| th1a | samyl: Do you work with a school somewhere? | 17:18 |
| samyl | yes, in fact i work with a team that develop some solution for school | 17:19 |
| samyl | under free software | 17:19 |
| th1a | What does your schedule look like? | 17:19 |
| samyl | like fileserver, firewall | 17:20 |
| th1a | Are you doing student information system stuff, like attendance, grades, etc? | 17:21 |
| samyl | i'm sorry thla, what in fact do you want to know | 17:21 |
| samyl | ah ok | 17:21 |
| samyl | no, we provide fileserver with ldap, firewall... | 17:21 |
| th1a | Ah. | 17:22 |
| th1a | On Linux? | 17:22 |
| samyl | yes | 17:22 |
| samyl | mandrake | 17:22 |
| samyl | we build our distribution | 17:23 |
| th1a | I see. Where in the world are you? | 17:24 |
| samyl | I've seen an article to schooltool and I was very interested to read more and discover what is "schooltool" | 17:24 |
| samyl | in france | 17:24 |
| samyl | and you in south africa? | 17:24 |
| th1a | Do you have any experience with Python or Zope? | 17:25 |
| th1a | I am in the US. Providence, RI. | 17:25 |
| samyl | me, not really but we have some developpers who uses python everyday | 17:25 |
| samyl | with twisted and... | 17:26 |
| samyl | thla, is it the best think to use "SchoolTool/SchoolBell 0.9" to test schooltool | 17:27 |
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| th1a | I don't recommend looking at anything other than SchoolBell at this point. | 17:28 |
| samyl | yes, but as you understand i just want to test the aspect administration like absence tracking, etc.. | 17:30 |
| th1a | The SchoolTool branch in Subversion shows what we're doing with it now, but it is just getting started. | 17:30 |
| th1a | There's no point in testing it at this point. | 17:30 |
| samyl | can i access to your subversion with my browser? | 17:31 |
| th1a | We've already planned lots of changes in the next version, so its very hard to give feedback at this point. | 17:31 |
| th1a | You can see the code at http://source.schooltool.org | 17:31 |
| samyl | do I choose "branches/schooltool-0.9.x" ? | 17:33 |
| bskahan | trunk/schooltool | 17:34 |
| th1a | Sorry, http://source.schooltool.org/svn/trunk/schooltool/ is the current stuff. | 17:34 |
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| samyl | ok | 17:35 |
| th1a | samyl: The important thing for you to understand is that we're going to ba actively developing these administrative tools over the next year, and we'd welcome the participation and input of your team. | 17:38 |
| bskahan | ok, working on the add view for sections | 17:40 |
| bskahan | to simplify life, sections can't be added except from a Course view | 17:40 |
| bskahan | I pass the Course id through the request to the SectionAddView | 17:41 |
| th1a | OK. We'll see if that works in the long run. | 17:41 |
| th1a | Realistically, it is probably a good idea. | 17:42 |
| bskahan | everything seems to work up to hitting the Add button, for some reason that calls view.update() and creates a new SectionAddView instance, but it doesn't pass the request through | 17:42 |
| samyl | i understand but for the moment, it's a personal act because I find that your work is nice | 17:42 |
| th1a | Good! Sorry if it seems like we're putting you off. SchoolBell 1.0 is the only thing we feel solid about. | 17:43 |
| th1a | We like it much more than the earlier releases. | 17:43 |
| samyl | i understand | 17:44 |
| samyl | I'll test schoolbell even if i'm more insterested by the aspect "absence traking" .. | 17:48 |
| th1a | If you could write up some of your requirements for absence tracking, that would be helpful. We'll probably be working on that again this summer. | 17:49 |
| GaryPoster | hi--quick question: I see on the schoolbell site and in schoolbell/calendar/README.txt on the trunk that you still need three things: - Timezones | 17:51 |
| GaryPoster | - All day events | 17:51 |
| GaryPoster | - Ready to use calendar as a Zope 3 content component, with browser views. What of those are scheduled for 1.0, is SchoolBell 1.0 still ok for end of April, and are any of these actually implemented yet? Thanks | 17:51 |
| th1a | It doesn't look like we're going to release SchoolBell 1.1 until the end of May, but all those things are done in subversion. | 17:53 |
| samyl | I don't know because I'm just a consultant for this team, my job is administration but if it's possible why not? | 17:54 |
| bskahan | GaryPoster: http://source.schooltool.org/svn/trunk/schoolbell/RELEASE slightly off, but it has most of the features added between 1.0 and 1.1 | 17:55 |
| GaryPoster | ok will look. Thanks! | 17:56 |
| bskahan | the major feature is the REST interface will be available in 1.1, while it wasn't in 1.0 | 17:56 |
| samyl | thla, I hope that you aren't angry | 17:58 |
| th1a | saml: I'm not angry :-) | 17:58 |
| th1a | Somewhat jetlagged. | 17:58 |
| th1a | I flew back from England yesterday, so it was a 30 hour day. | 17:58 |
| GaryPoster | OK, cool. I also saw on the website that IE wasn't completely working, with Firefox being the primary target. Has that changed? Not Firefox being primary target, I understand that ;-), but IE not completely working | 17:59 |
| bskahan | its 96% working | 18:00 |
| bskahan | (I mde that up) | 18:00 |
| samyl | I understand, i like plane but i prefer it to the holidays | 18:00 |
| bskahan | GaryPoster: there are definitely rendering glitches in IE | 18:01 |
| th1a | GaryPoster: The biggest reason it isn't a target is that none of us use Windows, and we need IE users to nag us. | 18:01 |
| th1a | Feel free to nag. | 18:01 |
| bskahan | and file bugs | 18:02 |
| th1a | http://issues.schooltool.org | 18:02 |
| bskahan | I have access to a windows box now so hopefully 1.1 won't have issues | 18:02 |
| th1a | Of course, if you know enough about HTML and CSS that you can contribute patches for IE, that's ideal ;-) | 18:03 |
| GaryPoster | bskahan: understood, me either, but we need that support. OK, so I am to understand that IE support is a priority if bugs are filed against it, but not something that will happen "naturally"...until maybe 1.1 :-) ? | 18:03 |
| th1a | We are trying. | 18:03 |
| GaryPoster | "me either" == not a Win user; took me too long to write the reply ;-) | 18:03 |
| bskahan | its a very high priority for 1.1 | 18:03 |
| th1a | It isn't the policy to not support IE. | 18:03 |
| GaryPoster | no criticism implied, btw, trust me; I just need to get a feeling for things. OK, cool. | 18:04 |
| bskahan | it was late in the release cycle when we realized how many problems there were | 18:04 |
| bskahan | for 1.0 | 18:04 |
| GaryPoster | gotcha | 18:04 |
| GaryPoster | OK, great, thanks you all. I'll look around some more later and probably have some more questions. :-) | 18:05 |
| th1a | Excellent. | 18:05 |
| bskahan | GaryPoster: thanks for fixing pytz btw | 18:06 |
| GaryPoster | :-) cool | 18:07 |
| GaryPoster | glad we are all using it | 18:07 |
| samyl | thal, bskahan, have a nice day | 18:13 |
| bskahan | samyl: you too | 18:16 |
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| bska|mobile | anyone know what test setup is required to get around this error: | 21:56 |
| bska|mobile | ComponentLookupError: ((<zope.schema._field.Object object at 0xb70dcfcc>, <zope.publisher.browser.TestRequest instance URL=http://127.0.0.1>), <InterfaceClass zope.app.form.interfaces.IInputWidget>, u'') | 21:56 |
| bska|mobile | for something that works in reality | 21:56 |
| mgedmin | no, but I know how to find that out | 21:59 |
| mgedmin | find the zcml file in zope that defines a view for IObject, providing IInputWidget | 22:00 |
| mgedmin | then rewrite that view registration with ztapi.browserViewProviding in you test setup | 22:00 |
| bska|mobile | mgedmin: thanks | 22:00 |
| mgedmin | find -name '*.zcml'|grep -v .svn|xargs grep for=IObject | 22:00 |
| mgedmin | s/for=IObject/for=.*IObject/ actually | 22:01 |
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| th1a | I'm becoming very frustrated by my inability to figure out how to get the ubuntu-calendar backgrounds to work. | 23:51 |
| th1a | Do I have to find them and add them? | 23:52 |
| th1a | I did the apt-get. | 23:52 |
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