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| bskahan | tvon: off the top of your head do you know if listofevents.sort() works? | 01:53 |
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| bskahan | yeo | 01:54 |
| bskahan | yep | 01:54 |
| bskahan | nm | 01:54 |
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| * bskahan is still wishing he'd made it to the timezone talk at PyCon | 15:40 | |
| bskahan | having all datetime methods create immutable naive objects by default is crap | 15:44 |
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| ignas | has anyone added evolution scripts for TZ aware events ? | 16:18 |
| ignas | database compatibility is kind of broken at the moment ... | 16:19 |
| bskahan | no, I started on them last week ad got distracted | 16:22 |
| * bskahan adds to TODO | 16:23 | |
| bskahan | how should we test evolution scripts? | 16:23 |
| alga | if they went into head along with the format change, the evolution scripts would have received some real-world testing | 16:23 |
| alga | in all of the developer's sandboxes ;-) | 16:23 |
| * bskahan nods | 16:24 | |
| bskahan | it didn't really occur to me until the next morning that all the existing databases would break | 16:24 |
| bskahan | I would have at least sent a heads up mail if I'd been thinking clearly | 16:24 |
| alga | the evolve script that I wrote did not have the tests, but I made a database of an old version and used it several times | 16:25 |
| alga | until the evolve script worked flawlessly | 16:25 |
| * bskahan nods | 16:25 | |
| bskahan | I'm still trying to get TZ rendering right, I'll do the generations script after that | 16:26 |
| alga | OK, I nuked my DB already anyway :-) | 16:26 |
| bskahan | speaking of | 16:27 |
| bskahan | if something is tested in schooltool unit tests should I add to that test or start testing new funcionality in a seperate doctest | 16:27 |
| alga | depends | 16:28 |
| alga | if the existing test works fine enough for you, you can extend on it | 16:28 |
| bskahan | ok | 16:28 |
| alga | if it's too big, too complex, split it | 16:28 |
| alga | if you're doing something that deserves a different chapter, so to speak, you can make a separate test | 16:29 |
| bskahan | there's a comment about them being 'Legacy' so I wasn't sure if the plan was to replace them over time | 16:29 |
| alga | ah, you mean whether the unittest.py tests are deprecated? | 16:30 |
| alga | they are not | 16:30 |
| alga | It's just that doctests are easier to write new stuff | 16:30 |
| bskahan | thanks | 16:30 |
| alga | no problem | 16:45 |
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| bskahan | th1a: what's the target release date for STC 1.0, SB 1.1? | 19:06 |
| bskahan | mid/late april? | 19:06 |
| bskahan | (I could track it down in email, but evolution sucks) | 19:06 |
| th1a | Ideally, but the beginning of May seems more likely. | 19:06 |
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| th1a | So got two NGages from Nokia today. | 21:04 |
| th1a | Who wants to learn some Python for Series 60? | 21:05 |
| tvon | me! | 21:05 |
| tvon | always wanted to hack on a mobile device, heh | 21:06 |
| th1a | OK... I'll probably send an email to see if anyone else is interested. We'll have an essay contest for the winner ;-) | 21:09 |
| * bskahan wondered if it was fair to ask at 8pm LT time | 21:09 | |
| bskahan | ;) | 21:09 |
| tvon | hah | 21:09 |
| th1a | jinty already turned his nose up. I figured he should get first crack. | 21:10 |
| * tvon would almost be wiling to buy one | 21:11 | |
| th1a | I'll give it to jinty and he can sell it to you. | 21:13 |
| th1a | Then everyone will be happy! | 21:13 |
| tvon | haha | 21:13 |
| * mgedmin hasn't made up his mind yet | 21:15 | |
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| tvon | well, if POV passes, I get it before bskahan, just remember that :-D | 21:42 |
| tvon | because I shouted first | 21:42 |
| th1a | It's all logged. | 21:43 |
| tvon | sweet | 21:43 |
| th1a | I have my bluetooth console running. | 21:43 |
| tvon | bskahan: sucker | 21:43 |
| th1a | Not sure how hard it'll be on Linux. | 21:43 |
| * mgedmin could try, hint, hint | 21:43 | |
| th1a | Do you want to be in the lottery mgedmin? | 21:44 |
| * tvon thinks mexican knife fight is the appropriate way to decide these things | 21:44 | |
| tvon | or a lottery | 21:44 |
| th1a | I think we could probably get another one if necessary. | 21:44 |
| th1a | I think they'll have plenty of these things lying around, especially now that the PSP is out. | 21:45 |
| * tvon thinks he should work on the PSP interface to ST | 21:46 | |
| th1a | That's an excellent idea, unfortunately, the web interface may suffice for that. | 21:46 |
| tvon | heh | 21:46 |
| th1a | So for the purposes of my demo/prototype, I essentially need to have /dev/tty.ngage exchanging data with the command line client. | 21:49 |
| mgedmin | what's PSP? | 21:49 |
| th1a | PlayStation Portable. | 21:49 |
| th1a | I assume that's what the last P stands for. | 21:49 |
| * mgedmin will gladly work on a 42" plasma TV interface to SchoolTool if somebody gave him the appropriate hardware | 21:50 | |
| th1a | My sister is trying to order a 50" plasma touchscreen for her school. | 21:50 |
| th1a | It is a pain in the ass to try to figure out which one to get. | 21:51 |
| th1a | Kind of an expensive item to screw up. | 21:51 |
| tvon | mgedmin: haha | 21:53 |
| tvon | th1a: indeed | 21:54 |
| th1a | She almost ordered a Panasonic which I'm now convinced won't work with her Macs. | 21:54 |
| * mgedmin very tired | 22:06 | |
| mgedmin | see you tomorrow | 22:06 |
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| tvon | toodles | 22:07 |
| tvon | th1a: is STC 1.1 the one intended to be used by schools? | 22:08 |
| tvon | as opposed to 1.0 | 22:08 |
| tvon | we'd like to add a few days for UI work for it | 22:09 |
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| th1a | I'm thinking of it pretty much like SB 1.0 vs. SB 1.1. | 22:23 |
| * tvon nods | 22:24 | |
| tvon | okay | 22:24 |
| th1a | I want to get STC 1.0 out in a month with enough to make it functional. | 22:24 |
| tvon | we'll schedule ui work for 1.1 then | 22:24 |
| th1a | It is more of a time issue. | 22:24 |
| th1a | We just need to prioritize. | 22:24 |
| tvon | we consider the last UI overhaul as round 1.. we'd like to go through and (now that we are settled into z3) make further improvements | 22:24 |
| th1a | UI might be more important than features, depending on what you're doing. | 22:25 |
| tvon | its super important | 22:26 |
| tvon | er, very important | 22:26 |
| tvon | hrm.. need to put some stuff in to sb 1.1, namely that skinny-event view | 22:26 |
| th1a | Well, let me know specifically what you have in mind. | 22:26 |
| tvon | okay, we'll come up with a list | 22:27 |
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| th1a | phew. Hitting 120 baseballs is surprisingly tiring. | 23:48 |
| th1a | Especially if you're out of shape. | 23:48 |
| tvon | hah | 23:48 |
| * tvon wants to hit the cages soon | 23:48 | |
| th1a | Did I tell you that I'm going to start playing vintage base ball? | 23:48 |
| tvon | no, that sounds fun | 23:49 |
| th1a | 1890 rules. | 23:49 |
| th1a | No gloves. | 23:49 |
| tvon | haha, that sounds very interesting | 23:49 |
| th1a | My first practice is Sunday. Hopefully I'll actually be able to do something, since I haven't played baseball in 20 years. | 23:49 |
| tvon | nice | 23:50 |
| tvon | is there like a league or something? | 23:50 |
| th1a | http://providencegrays.org/ | 23:50 |
| tvon | nice | 23:50 |
| tvon | how did you find it? | 23:52 |
| th1a | My buddy Rick has played with them for pretty much the whole time they've been around. | 23:53 |
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| th1a | He's an archivist. | 23:53 |
| tvon | ah | 23:53 |
| th1a | He discovered a bat that was made in Providence in that period. | 23:53 |
| th1a | Among other things. | 23:53 |
| tvon | where are the other teams from? all in the area? | 23:54 |
| th1a | A lot seem to be in New York state. | 23:54 |
| * tvon wonders if any are around baltimore | 23:56 | |
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