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| jdub | ahr | 09:43 |
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| jdub | hey dudes :) | 09:43 |
| jdub | tvon: around? | 09:43 |
| jdub | hrm, 5 hours idle. i am probably way out of timezone. | 09:44 |
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| tvon | jdub: ayt? | 10:24 |
| * tvon needs an irc client that can gracefully include timestamps in the UI | 10:24 | |
| * tvon thinks the world needs a non-suck irc client | 10:25 | |
| * bskahan suggests schooltool@conference.etria.com | 10:27 | |
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| * bskahan wishes irc.gnome.org would move to xmpp.gnome.org | 10:32 | |
| jdub | tvon: your entry about beagle - is that a firefox theme, or a gtk theme? | 10:39 |
| jdub | tvon: the plone gui sounds interesting, but i can't get to the linked blog entry | 10:39 |
| tvon | hrm | 10:40 |
| jdub | (site seems to be down) | 10:40 |
| tvon | jdub: firefox...either the industrial theme or the gnome-fx theme | 10:40 |
| jdub | what's your gtk+ theme? | 10:40 |
| tvon | mhm, an indubstrial based colorscheme on the clearlooks engine | 10:41 |
| jdub | aha, clearlooks | 10:41 |
| jdub | awesome, thanks | 10:41 |
| tvon | yeah, I like it :) | 10:41 |
| tvon | np | 10:41 |
| jdub | been considering shifting to clearlooks by default in ubuntu | 10:41 |
| tvon | that would be nice | 10:41 |
| tvon | that or SmoothGNOME which is my normal default | 10:41 |
| jdub | saves you about 2s of config time ;) | 10:41 |
| tvon | heh | 10:41 |
| jdub | mmm, smoothgnome is a bit 'chunky' for default | 10:42 |
| tvon | I'm mostly a fan of the HIG colorscheme | 10:42 |
| tvon | granted that it can be done with any engine | 10:42 |
| tvon | IRT the the plone gui...are you talking about the Plone Desktop blog entry? | 10:43 |
| jdub | yeah | 10:43 |
| tvon | which link, there are many :) | 10:44 |
| jdub | awkey.net | 10:44 |
| jdub | er, awkley.org sorry | 10:44 |
| tvon | yeah, it seems to be down (for the past few days at least) | 10:44 |
| jdub | without the e | 10:44 |
| jdub | bummer | 10:44 |
| jdub | sounded cool | 10:44 |
| jdub | i haven't entirely bought into plone yet (dangerous on this channel?) | 10:44 |
| jdub | but i'm looking forward to seeing what happens on top of zope3 | 10:45 |
| tvon | yeah, it's Sidne de Silva's blog...he does good things (CMFSubversionBrowser and such) | 10:45 |
| tvon | er, Sidnei da Silva | 10:46 |
| tvon | Pretty much everything z3 sounds like delicious candy | 10:47 |
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| * jinty is wondering how to start a schoolbell server from a python script in /usr/bin... | 20:08 | |
| jinty | i.e. the one in the schoolbell module | 20:09 |
| tvon | the z3 one? | 20:10 |
| jinty | yep | 20:10 |
| tvon | the zopectl or runzope scripts should do the trick I think | 20:11 |
| * jinty goes to find zopectl | 20:12 | |
| jinty | thanks | 20:12 |
| tvon | np | 20:12 |
| th1a | I need to do the same thing for Windows. | 20:12 |
| tvon | actually I see no runzope, maybe it's just zopectl now | 20:12 |
| tvon | zopectl = schooltool/Zope3/bin/zopectl | 20:13 |
| jinty | Before I dive into these, they will be able to start a standalone instance of schoolbell? | 20:13 |
| th1a | Not at this point. | 20:14 |
| jinty | in the future? | 20:14 |
| th1a | What do you mean by standalone? One that acts like the current version? | 20:15 |
| jinty | yes | 20:15 |
| th1a | You'll need an answer from POV on that one. | 20:16 |
| jinty | something that looks veruy much like schoolbell today | 20:16 |
| jinty | ok, thanks. | 20:17 |
| th1a | Both options are open at this point. | 20:17 |
| mgedmin | I want to rewrite the current top-level schoolbell-server.py to start a mini-Zope3 instance | 20:17 |
| th1a | I'm not sure when, if ever, we'll have to abandon one approach in favor of the other. | 20:17 |
| mgedmin | and hook into the publication process so that we have a SchoolBellApplication instead of Zope's RootFolder | 20:18 |
| th1a | Zope 3 is much more flexible with this kind of thing than Zope 2, so I have to expand my consciousness to grasp the possibilities. | 20:19 |
| jinty | th1a: I think the standalone option is nice because it is simple, quick and easy to install. | 20:19 |
| th1a | Certainly. | 20:20 |
| jinty | mgedmin: Thanks, i'll have a look for it in the checkins. | 20:21 |
| jinty | jdub: ayt? | 20:22 |
| mgedmin | jinty, it's not written yet, so you'll have to wait a week or two | 20:25 |
| jinty | understood, I only meant that you wouldn't have to send me a mail. But if you want to, that would be great. I have to wait for this before I can test the packages fully. | 20:30 |
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| th1a | mgedmin: Can workflow transitions be triggered by events in Zope 3? | 21:26 |
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| mgedmin | th1a, I've never played with workflow in Zope 3 | 21:30 |
| th1a | OK. | 21:31 |
| mgedmin | but I'm pretty sure the answer is "yes" | 21:31 |
| th1a | I'm thinking about applying workflows to persons. | 21:31 |
| tvon | that would be nice | 21:31 |
| th1a | That's a lot of what schools do. | 21:32 |
| th1a | You're in "suspended" state until three days elapse and we meet with your parents. | 21:32 |
| th1a | That sort of thing. | 21:32 |
| tvon | yeah.. "pre-registration", "active student"..etc | 21:34 |
| th1a | "9th grade," "10th grade..." | 21:34 |
| tvon | that crossed my mind and I'm not sure thats the way to distinguish grades | 21:35 |
| tvon | perhaps by groups | 21:35 |
| th1a | Well, promotion is a big issue. It is one of the harder areas. | 21:35 |
| th1a | And it can vary a lot in different systems. | 21:36 |
| * tvon decides to juggle actions/tools a bit | 21:44 | |
| th1a | actions/tools? | 21:46 |
| tvon | in the UI..the tools div and the ZMI actions | 21:47 |
| th1a | Ah. | 21:48 |
| tvon | lunchtime | 21:57 |
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| * mgedmin is replacing magic CSS rules for calendar navigation icons with <a href=""><img src=""></a> | 22:00 | |
| mgedmin | CSS magic does not allow you to specify alternate text | 22:00 |
| mgedmin | so if images are disabled/not available, the user sees nothing | 22:00 |
| mgedmin | those icons are small and hard to find with the mouse | 22:09 |
| mgedmin | I'll try adding some text next to them | 22:09 |
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| Aiste | hi th1a | 23:00 |
| Aiste | did you receive the invoice for the initial payment on the second batch of SB migration to Zope3 stories? | 23:00 |
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| th1a | Yes I sent that to Mark on Tuesday. | 23:35 |
| th1a | Aiste ^ | 23:36 |
| Aiste | oh, ok, thanks | 23:36 |
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