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| mgedmin | alga: I'd like to discuss schooltool packagin | 14:28 |
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| mgedmin | s/$/g/ | 14:28 |
| alga | k | 14:29 |
| *SteveA works on the Connection.add backport | 14:31 | |
| *SteveA has notes from Jim on what test to write | 14:31 | |
| alga | mgedmin: take a task card and write "Make a debian directory for scchooltool" | 14:31 |
| *alga*alga@fleksija:~$ ssh ex.codeworks.lt | 14:34 | |
| *alga*Linux ex 2.4.20-k7 #1 Tue Jan 14 00:29:06 EST 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux | 14:34 | |
| *alga*alga@ex:~$ | 14:34 | |
| SteveA | Ah... debian packaging | 14:35 |
| SteveA | I had a request from the sprint organiser... | 14:36 |
| SteveA | I'll find it | 14:36 |
| SteveA | also, he wants our .po files to do a french translation :-/ | 14:36 |
| SteveA | I explained that translations are off the menu atm. | 14:36 |
| mgedmin | debian packages were on my to-do list | 14:36 |
| mgedmin | i18n wasn't | 14:36 |
| SteveA | right -- we should put that in the next proposal | 14:36 |
| mgedmin | I can imagine (more or less) how the debian packages should look like | 14:37 |
| mgedmin | things are not all that clear with plain .tar.gz packaging | 14:37 |
| mgedmin | there were requests to split client from the server | 14:37 |
| alga | yep | 14:37 |
| mgedmin | alga suggested two archives: | 14:37 |
| mgedmin | client | 14:37 |
| mgedmin | and server + client | 14:37 |
| alga | yep | 14:37 |
| mgedmin | (server needs csvclient for sampleschool and cmdline client for ftests) | 14:38 |
| alga | I think that's the way to go for now | 14:38 |
| alga | that way the debs will be generated from 1 src package | 14:38 |
| SteveA | alga: how are you? | 14:40 |
| alga | SteveA: OK when reclined | 14:40 |
| alga | my back doesn't quite bend though | 14:41 |
| SteveA | oh -- something other than your nose / throat thing? | 14:41 |
| alga | nose-throat, but somewhat different | 14:43 |
| alga | my back muscles hurt like I have been sunburnt | 14:44 |
| SteveA | sounds like an evil virus thing | 14:45 |
| alga | mhm | 14:51 |
| mgedmin | has anyone looked at the issue tracker lately? are there any must-fix-before-release showstoppers? | 15:02 |
| mgedmin | (personally I have and I do not think there are) | 15:02 |
| mgedmin | alga: what about that bug you told me about yesterday? have you fixed or filed it? | 15:09 |
| *mgedmin just finished writing http://wiki.lan/SchoolToolPackaging | 15:15 | |
| mgedmin | alga, could you look at it (ssh fort porwarding or some such)? | 15:16 |
| mgedmin | we're now planning to lunch | 15:16 |
| SteveA SteveA|Home Jan 27 15:16:41 <mgedmin>SteveA, perhaps you could load that file and look at it during lunch? | 15:16 | |
| alga | SteveA: what about the user doc draft I've done? | 15:18 |
| *mgedmin is pondering whether he should take his laptop with him | 15:20 | |
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| alga | EHLO alga.sick.home.lt | 18:55 |
| alga | anyone alive? | 18:55 |
| SteveA | hi | 18:55 |
| alga | there's another doc for you to read and edit on the way to the repo | 18:55 |
| alga | doc/architecture.txt | 18:56 |
| alga | hello? | 18:59 |
| SteveA | talking with jim | 18:59 |
| mgedmin | alga: reading your doc now | 19:00 |
| mgedmin | could you remind me the port number we planned to use for schooltool? | 19:00 |
| *alga is disconcerted | 19:00 | |
| mgedmin | something mnemnonical | 19:00 |
| alga | 700L | 19:00 |
| alga | 7001 | 19:00 |
| alga | 57001 | 19:01 |
| mgedmin | did you look at SchoolToolPackagin? | 19:01 |
| mgedmin | g | 19:01 |
| *mgedmin keeps losing the letter 'g' today for some reason | 19:01 | |
| alga | if it's the same I got in my mail, then yes | 19:01 |
| alga | frankly, unimpressed | 19:02 |
| alga | questions, questions, and no answers | 19:02 |
| alga | nothing we didn't know | 19:02 |
| alga | 19:01 < mgedmin> g | 19:03 |
| alga | looks like *grin* | 19:03 |
| mgedmin | what's that space doing in front of my nick? | 19:03 |
| mgedmin | I do not know what you saw in the email | 19:03 |
| alga | it's reserved for the + or @ flag | 19:03 |
| mgedmin | the doc I put on wiki is full of assertions | 19:03 |
| alga | the wiki nofitication | 19:03 |
| mgedmin | and I'm giving you the chance to disagree with them | 19:03 |
| *mgedmin thought wiki notifications were not sent for external edits | 19:04 | |
| mgedmin | you probably only saw the first draft, the one I entered in mozilla's text area | 19:04 |
| alga | mmaybe | 19:04 |
| mgedmin | easy to verify: did you see 'things to do before the release'? | 19:05 |
| alga | is šo šlooow | 19:05 |
| alga | mmm, not sure | 19:05 |
| alga | look, I'm trying to get through to it via links on fridge | 19:05 |
| alga | We should not use the Makefile for running things, we should use portable | 19:07 |
| alga | Python scripts instead. | 19:07 |
| alga | what is that supposed to mean? | 19:07 |
| alga | do you intend to write those scripts before release? | 19:08 |
| mgedmin | yes | 19:08 |
| mgedmin | do you think we shouldn't? | 19:08 |
| mgedmin | I'm thinking about 5-line python scripts | 19:08 |
| alga | am thinkink is diffikult | 19:08 |
| mgedmin | that just set sys.path appropriatelly, import main from schooltool.clients.something and call it | 19:08 |
| alga | hm | 19:08 |
| mgedmin | those scripts will live in /usr/bin in debian packages | 19:08 |
| alga | lots of scripts? | 19:08 |
| mgedmin | or in the project root in source archive | 19:09 |
| mgedmin | let's see | 19:09 |
| alga | what about schooltool.py | 19:09 |
| alga | schooltool run | 19:09 |
| mgedmin | 'run server', 'run cmdline client', 'run wxclient' | 19:09 |
| alga | schooltool runwxclient | 19:09 |
| mgedmin | maybe 'create & import sample school' | 19:09 |
| mgedmin | no scripts for unit/functional tests definitely | 19:09 |
| alga | ok | 19:09 |
| mgedmin | no separate script for building extension modules (setup.py is good enough | 19:09 |
| mgedmin | ) | 19:09 |
| alga | iis setup.py needed? | 19:10 |
| mgedmin | yes | 19:10 |
| alga | what are distutils fo anyway? | 19:10 |
| mgedmin | it builds zodb/persistence extension modules | 19:10 |
| alga | nothing more? | 19:10 |
| mgedmin | we use it for nothing more | 19:10 |
| mgedmin | it could potentially be used for installing things | 19:10 |
| mgedmin | or building py2exe style installers | 19:10 |
| mgedmin | I'm not proposing to do that for this release | 19:11 |
| alga | OK | 19:15 |
| alga | yep, that thing looks fine | 19:15 |
| alga | please please edit the docs | 19:15 |
| alga | I wrote them completely off-hand | 19:16 |
| alga | as a start | 19:16 |
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| alga | JTM | 19:16 |
| mgedmin | whatis JTM? | 19:17 |
| mgedmin | 'just to move' | 19:17 |
| alga | rusiškas keiksmažodis | 19:19 |
| mgedmin | I thought you were referring to http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000339.html | 19:20 |
| alga | in that case I'd say "fire and motion" | 19:25 |
| alga | f&m | 19:25 |
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